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Offline Jim Finn

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FIlling voids with a contrasting color.
« on: May 03, 2016, 08:19:37 am »
 I have an idea to make american flags using walnut for the normaly blue background for the white stars.  I have a leather tooling tool the shape of a 3/8" star that I use with a sharp blow to put an indent into the walnut.  I then fill that void with baby powder mixed with white glue and it looks great until, after it dries and I sand off the surface the walnut dust gets into the white.  Same results by scraping instead of sanding.  I have done things like this a lot with great results but using white seems not to work for me.  I have tried using exoxy or finishing resin but they become pretty dark looking, even before sanding.

     Does anone have any ideas to solve this problem?  A different material?  A different glue? All I can think of, I have tried, but others may have a better idea/solution.

 

     Yes  I am here to pick your brain.
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Re: FIlling voids with a contrasting color.
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2016, 09:47:37 am »
Hi Jim

Have you tried FIMO clay.  You have to bake it to make it hard.  I have tried other colours like yellow and never had any discoloration when sanding.

Steve has a couple of articles on his blog that I lifted a pic from his blog that shows white

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Re: FIlling voids with a contrasting color.
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2016, 11:24:03 am »
I agree with using the clay.  I've not had a problem with discoloration after it is baked .  You can get it online or at Michaels.
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Re: FIlling voids with a contrasting color.
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2016, 07:38:48 pm »
Thanks........... I will try the clay at Michaels.
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Re: FIlling voids with a contrasting color.
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2016, 11:21:03 pm »
I don't know if they sell it or not but a colored acrylic? Or maybe mix a dab of paint in it to color then put that into the seam let it dry since being acrylic its going to be like a plastic so nothing should discolor it. Would try test pieces first. Don't know if they sell acrylic like this in a form to use in small amounts or how it would be mixed or melted to be able to make use of it.

Or might have to add something to the powder glue mixture that wouldn't let the walnut sawdust stick to it. But allwo the lines to stand out.
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Re: FIlling voids with a contrasting color.
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2016, 06:25:32 am »
I used to do faux inlay, I am not good enough to real inlay.

There is a product, comes in a container like a pint size milk carton, that is water putty for wood work.  It dries white, says you can stain it but I have not had luck with that aspect.  Sands like wood and is hard as a rock.

Just mix the powder with water to a consistency like oatmeal, and pour it in, sand it flush.
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2016, 09:44:51 am »
Quote from: Jim-78028 on May 04, 2016, 06:25:32 am
I used to do faux inlay, I am not good enough to real inlay.

There is a product, comes in a container like a pint size milk carton, that is water putty for wood work.  It dries white, says you can stain it but I have not had luck with that aspect.  Sands like wood and is hard as a rock.

Just mix the powder with water to a consistency like oatmeal, and pour it in, sand it flush.
     Sounds interesting.  I wonder what it is called or where to get it.
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Re: FIlling voids with a contrasting color.
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2016, 05:53:49 am »
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DAP Water Putty Wood Patch  by Plastic wood

Home Depot carries it
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Re: FIlling voids with a contrasting color.
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2016, 06:34:39 pm »
I got some polymer clay at Michael's today and tried it out.  It worked very well for me.  Thanks for all the help.
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Re: FIlling voids with a contrasting color.
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2016, 05:45:10 am »
Hi Jim, you could use a baking soda and super glue finish. This would stay white and give you a durable finish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slCMkvEfK_U

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Re: FIlling voids with a contrasting color.
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2016, 08:32:01 am »
Quote from: Hawkdave on May 06, 2016, 05:45:10 am
Hi Jim, you could use a baking soda and super glue finish. This would stay white and give you a durable finish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slCMkvEfK_U

Dave.

Super glue?  never thought of that.  I need to try that.  Thanks for your input.
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Re: FIlling voids with a contrasting color.
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2016, 03:16:06 pm »
OK  Here is what I was trying to achieve.  The Polymer clay worked well for this.
  Thank you all for your help.  In the future, I will pass on what I have learned here as my own idea....Haha.   Thanks again. 

P.S.  In mid June, I will offer this box for sale at the farmers marked I frequent, and if it sells I will make another.

« Last Edit: May 07, 2016, 03:36:13 pm by Jim Finn »
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Re: FIlling voids with a contrasting color.
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2016, 12:11:45 pm »
That turned out very nice indeed.  I was hoping you would share the final project with us.
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Re: FIlling voids with a contrasting color.
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2016, 08:48:47 pm »
This may be a little late looking at how nice your flag turned out but, here's a link to a video that shows an inlay being done with a product called Timber Mate and CA Glue that looks like it would work well for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvFb9WNacbU

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