Cstm - me too, that's why I started this thread. Cheers, Barry. By the way, stopped at Home Hardware and Rona. A piece of S1S Oak board 3/4 in. x 6 in. x 4 ft. long costs $45 up here. I've said it in previous posts, unless it's spruce, pine or fir, which are native in this part of the world, you pay through the nose.