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Wake up call for ALL of US!
« on: February 08, 2012, 12:07:36 pm »
Two days after Christmas, Abbie Raga's dad was having a hard time breathing. Tom Raga told his 7-year-old daughter to call 911.
Tom estimates he spent two hours making cuts on wood for a project in an unventilated room in the family's home in the 800 block of Hidden Spring Drive in unincorporated St. Charles County. Feeling light headed, he went upstairs and sat down on a sofa.
"I was out of breath. It was getting to the point I couldn't take a breath," Tom said. "I'd had a headache for 45 minutes to an hour, and the last 10 to 15 minutes it intensified a lot. I laid down and called my wife, and said, 'You've got to come home.'"
Then Abbie took over, becoming Tom's lifeline until paramedics arrived. Her calm voice can be heard as she talked to St. Charles County Ambulance District dispatcher Vicki Schramm for about four minutes before a neighbor arrived. Tom never lost consciousness, but said the ordeal was too painful for him to talk.
"I called 911 for my dad because he couldn't breathe or talk," Abbie said. "It was probably like he didn't want to talk because it hurt."
Abbie's mom, Lynn, was at work in Clayton when Tom became ill. Abbie had already called Lynn and told her her dad was sick and to come home, but she was at least 20 minutes away. Abbie had to act to help her dad.
During the 911 call, Schramm guided Abbie to unlock the front door, turn on the front porch light and keep checking on Tom's status. She passed all of Schramm's instructions with flying colors.
Schramm, who has worked for the ambulance district for 10 years, has children and grandchildren of her own. During the course of the 911 call, Schramm's tone with Abbie is motherly and soothing. Schramm said children don't get enough credit for how they react to emergency situations.
"We talk about different types of callers all the time," Schramm said of her fellow dispatchers. "A child caller is almost perfect because they do what you ask, and if you talk to them they will talk back. They typically will stay calm if you are calm with them.
"We don't get an enormous amount of child callers," she said. "Usually when we get a child caller it seems like an adult takes over right away."
Abbie's neighbor didn't start talking to Schramm until the paramedics were well on their way. At one point during their conversation, Schramm asks Abbie if Tom is changing colors. Abbie said he wasn't and that it looked like he as thinking about something.
"At one point (Tom) got on the phone and it was clear he was struggling to breathe," Schramm said. "I told him, 'Let your daughter have the phone because she's doing wonderful.'"
Given Tom's symptoms, he thought he was having a heart attack. Given his age, 53, paramedics reached the same conclusion, and Tom said he was administered nitroglycerin. He was rushed to the emergency room at Barnes-Jewish St. Peters Hospital, where he said he spent about two hours before being allowed to go home.
Tom wondered what would have happened if Abbie had been in school that day. The Ragas' 5-year-old son, Andrew, was also home at the time. Tom called his neighbor on his cell phone, then gave the phone to Andrew, who told the neighbor his dad needed help.
"I could have been here by myself," Tom said. "I could have passed out. It got to that point. Abbie got the iPad and I started reading the symptoms, and I didn't have the symptoms of a heart attack. After that, I don't remember a lot."
For the large part she played in getting Tom to the hospital quickly, Abbie has been the subject of TV reports, was recognized during the Francis Howell school board's Jan. 19 meeting, and was honored by the ambulance district on Jan. 25, when she was presented with a special citizen service award and a gift certificate from Build A Bear.
Abbie said she doesn't think she's a hero, even though her dad, Schramm and members of the ambulance district would disagree. During the interview with a newspaper reporter, Abbie started sobbing as she talked about that day. Her dad quickly swept her up into his arms, and she burrowed her face into his chest.
Sometimes it's OK just to be a 7-year-old girl who loves her daddy.


http://www.stltoday.com/suburban-journals/stcharles/news/st-charles-county-girl-kept-her-cool-during-call/article_b9217445-6081-5617-931e-18c2a67de9c2.html#ixzz1loLGHVuk
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Re: Wake up call for ALL of US!
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 02:52:03 pm »
 ;D Thanks GB. Really makes one think. Great daughter that guy has.

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Re: Wake up call for ALL of US!
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2012, 03:39:43 pm »
Great story that G B. We have a show here in the U K once a year where kids are honoured for bravery and acts of selflessness, doing things well beyond their years. It is great to see and surprising how enterprising they can be, she deserves every encouragement and all the praise she got. But most of all, she probably saved her Dad.
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Re: Wake up call for ALL of US!
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2012, 03:54:15 pm »
I have contacted a friend at the Central County Fire and Rescue Service ans I am trying to find out just exactly what the circumstances were.
If I get any further information on exactly what happened I will pass it on!

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Re: Wake up call for ALL of US! Update-1
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2012, 10:53:06 am »
Reply from Fire Dept. contact:

Hi Ed,
 
That was an interesting call.  I had read about it earlier and had wondered myself what the circumstances were that was the reality vs. the media representation.  They rarely get the entire story correct.
 
Anyway, I put in a call to a County Ambulance contact (who had responded to the call) and am awaiting a return contact regarding information.
 
I am not totally certain that such an incident would be acute, as it was reported, in an average person.  Otherwise, we?d be having people dropping like flies anytime someone cuts wood.   My guess is there was some underlying medical problem (respiratory in nature) with the victim that was actually compounded by the irritants in the air.  So, the real issue may be only that and not the irritant/toxic affect alone.
 
We will not be able to find out about that specific with the actual patient due to HIPAA medical privacy laws.  But, I?m sure we can get a ?generalization? on this for use in the context you are asking.
 
As with ANY floating particulate matter inhaled into our lungs, it is a bad thing.  The body does not like that and wants to rid itself of such by its own mechanisms (mucous flow, coughing, etc.), but it?s best to just avoid that irritant altogether, let alone deal with ?toxic? issues and/or allergic reactions.  This issue is obvious by the history of lung problems brought on by inhalation of coal dust (black lung disease) and of asbestos particles (mesothelioma) for example.  Both are really non-toxic materials, but can cause serious problems by their inhalation and the body?s reaction to them.  Thus, sawdust, etc. you inhale as a woodworker?   could be an issue.  One of which I would try to avoid at any rate by respiratory protection (filter masks) for the irritant aspect, let alone any toxic issues of various woods.
 
I wanted to get back to you quickly so you know I received your email.  As soon as I hear something from the medics I will get back to you.
Mark
 
P.S.  Are you familiar with the NIOSH N-95 respiratory filter masks?  We use them in our medical kits when working with patients who have known airborne-type contaminates.   They afford the best level of protection short of a full face mask with supplied air.
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Re: Wake up call for ALL of US! UPDATE!!!
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 02:32:55 pm »
Just got this from the Battalion Chief....
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Hi Ed,
 
Okay, after numerous emails and ?clearances? from those on-high regarding clarity of the request and medical privacy issues, I have some information for you regarding the medical call involving the respiratory emergency and woodworking you asked about.
 
The woodworker was cutting some wood (type unknown) with a dull saw blade in a confined space (garage, doors closed) that generated some smoke as well as some particulate matter in the air.   The amount of particulates was not particularly heavy such that it created any kind of mechanical blockage in his airway.  The patient had no history of any medical respiratory issues.  The medical problem was suggested to have been an acute bronchospasm/constriction event initiated by the atmospheric smoke/dust.  The patient was treated and released from the hospital.
 
I hope this helps your group a little bit.  Regardless, if one is working in an environment involving particulate matter suspended in the air, I--sure as can be--would be wearing eye and respiratory protection (N-95 dust mask minimum).
 

If I can be of further assistance, let me know!
 
Mark S. Runge
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Central County Fire Rescue
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