Thanks for all your comments, and the criticism is what I wanted, If you don't know what you're doing wrong, you cant fix it. The wavy lines on outside was my fault, I hit convert to curves (or something like that) by mistake then when I tried to move it , it went out of shape, I tried to sort it to no avail, since posting it I started again, did the pattern Identical but took Russ's advice and moved the H over a little, I'm now going through my fonts to see if there is a thicker design of the "&"