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Offline BilltheDiver

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copy-writes again: just an observation
« on: February 14, 2011, 10:00:11 am »
I know the topic has been hashed and re-hashed, and I know the legal answers, etc.  I visited the Florida State Fair yesterday and in the crafts for sale sections, couldn't help but notice the number of products for sale in obvious conflict with copywrites.  I can't imagine how they get away with it.  There were wall signs with phrases and images from Disney, multiple versions of "It's 5 oclock somewhere", and many others.  If they were for sale on the internet they would be slammed in no time.  One of the vendors with the most numerous conflicts was the same vendor I observed at last year's fair, so they must still be getting away with it.  I guess in that small arena they keep doing it until they get that cease & desist letter. 
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Re: copy-writes again: just an observation
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2011, 10:21:57 am »
I, too, have observed the same things at various craft shows and even some of the websites I have visited. The most glaring examples, if you live in a 'Major League" area, are all the uses of team logos and even the incorporating team merchandise into other projects for sale.
I agree that the 'little guy' or individual will most likely 'get away with it' UNTIL it comes to the attention of the copyright owner and the letter from an attorney is received.

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Re: copy-writes again: just an observation
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2011, 10:41:06 am »
I think that it is near impossible for these organizations to 'police' every avenue that people are selling in.  That is why so many get away with it.  It is up to the individual to have a conscience and go by their own moral compass, I feel.  Yes, many get away with it. And those are usually the people who belly ache the loudest when caught. 

It comes down to living by our own standards we set for ourselves.  As a designer, I do empathize with the 'big guys' on this one.  They weren't always as successful as they are now.  Just because they are successful and have huge resources, does it mean that it is OK for us to steal from them?  I don't think so.  Where do we draw the line of saying it is and is not OK to plagiarize someone else s idea?  At what point do they make "enough" money off of their ideas where we feel we don't owe them anymore?  And who really gives us the right to decide that ourselves?  I suppose that is why there are laws as such.  But enforcing them is nearly impossible.

That, my friends, is where we need to look within ourselves.

Enough said - back to work for me!  I will humbly get off my soap box and go back to drawing and scrolling! 

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Re: copy-writes again: just an observation
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2011, 10:57:56 am »
Very Well put Sheila and your comments give everyone the perspective of 'the other side'!

AND you touch on a growing problem with the feelings of so many that 'you got it, I want it so you have to give it to ME'!

I refer to this as GrayBeard's Theory of "Meism"!

Where have the values gone?

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Re: copy-writes again: just an observation
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2011, 12:06:35 pm »
Not quite on target, but I wanted to share this anyway.  For many years I operated a background music company and paid ASCAP and BMI (copywrite organizations) monthly fees for the music I played in businesses.  The law requires this, and a business can take out it's own individual license making it legal to play music from CD's, radio, etc. in their business.  But most don't.  They just put in a sound system and play a radio or whatever.  They feel if the music is off the air, or if they bought the CD they are free to play it.

The reason for ASCAP and BMI is that musicians and composers sign up with them so that they can get paid for the use of the music they created.  And why not?  If they did the work, they should get the rewards.  It's much like the other copyright laws, same purpose.

I confess that if I knew of a large restaurant, retail store, etc. doing this, I would notify ASCAP/BMI that this was happening.  But if it was a small establishment, I never did.  They probably couldn't afford or justify paying for music.  If you think about it, it's entirely possible that someone like you seeing these violations might let the copywrite owners know about it.  That's not a recommendation, just the reality of how many get caught.  It's a way of cutting out unfair competition.  

BTW, it's OK to play a regular radio or stereo in a business through it's associated  speakers, but not through an external sound system with five or more speakers.  
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