And a big thank you to you to Ron , i will show both to the client ! you guys are on a different level when it come to patterns , i could really do with some help with mine, i have watched steve making patterns with corel draw and find this ok when you have a good balanced photo but when you have a more common photo with shaddows , dark area's etc i am stuck , i think i must be a dinasour when it come to computers !
....Pete