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Crosscutting BB Plywood
« on: April 09, 2013, 09:34:34 am »
I cut some portrait blanks from a sheet of 1/8" Baltic Birch plywood with my table saw, with lousy results. The bottom side had tear-out along the full length of the cut. The rip cut was OK.

Is there a right method for cross-cutting this delicate material? I'd hate to waste a board as a backer material. Some questions:
- Do I need to score the wood first to break the surface before the full cut?
- Do I need a zero-clearance insert?
- How high above the top surface should the blade be set?
- Does the BB need something like masking tape on the back end?
- Some special type blade (mine is a 40T 1/8" carbide tipped, but it's old)

I'd appreciate any suggestions.
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Re: Crosscutting BB Plywood
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2013, 11:06:00 am »
the masking would help you but get a good fine tooth saw blade that will make a big difference for you. 


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Re: Crosscutting BB Plywood
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2013, 11:32:39 am »
Hi
We disscussed this on another forum recently and:
Definitely the quality and sharpness of the blade will help
A zero tolerance inset plate is also good, but that is inset and not a zero sled, as the sled only protects one side of the cut.
masking tape and scoring can only add to help.
As for the height of the blade, about two teeth above the thickness of the timber is a norm, however this is really only to reduce the amount of the blade being used and thus reducing the torque/resistance on the machine itself.
The other aspect that came up was the quality of the board, sometimes it can be found that one sheet will cut just fine, and the next board (although from the same supplier) gives the results that you have experienced, the only answer we came up with for this is that from time to time the boards can lack in the amount of adhesion in the laminations during  the process of manufacture
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Re: Crosscutting BB Plywood
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2013, 11:33:12 am »
I also suggest a large number tooth blade. I haven't had much problem with the tear out or frizzlies though.

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Re: Crosscutting BB Plywood
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2013, 12:41:49 pm »
I agree with Dave.
I use an 80 tooth thin kerf blade and it is fairly new and sharp. Some blades are marked for plywood and usually have a lot of teeth. I have seen as many as 100 tooth blades at Lowe's.
I also recommend a zero clearance insert on the saw. You can make your own insert with 1/2" plywood and if necessary glue shims to the back of it to get it level with the table. (or maybe sand the back if it is too thick)
I have heard of people using tape and scoring the wood as you have suggested but, I've never done it myself. It might help sometimes.
I generally follow Dave's recommendation of keeping the blade low. Just a 1/16" or so above the material. However, I have also read that if you are getting tearout on your wood to raise the blade up as high as it will go so that the teeth are cutting more straight down on the wood and not ripping right through it from the front edge. There is some thing to be said for that too. You might give that a try anyway.
The other thing that Dave brought up is that sometimes it is just the piece of ply that you are using. We get all kinds of plywood from all over the world and you never really know about the quality until you cut it. Generally speaking, the more plys, the better the wood works. However, I once bought a sheet of 3/4" birch (not baltic birch) that had 9 plys in it and after cutting found that it was full of voids and was basically JUNK!  >:(

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Re: Crosscutting BB Plywood
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2013, 06:39:51 am »
I've never tried scoring it, but I do lay down a line of painters tape.  I get the blade just above the board and use a fine toothed, thin kerf blade.  I do not have a zero clearance plate but the tape usually gives pretty good results.

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Re: Crosscutting BB Plywood
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2013, 10:37:53 am »
Thanks for the suggestions. I got a 200 tooth plywood blade and set it 1/2 tooth above the top of the 1/8" sheet (at 200, the teeth are pretty small). It cut very cleanly.
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Re: Crosscutting BB Plywood
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2013, 03:12:55 pm »
WHOW!!!! 200 teeth!! I've never seen a blade with that many teeth. Bet it cuts smoother than a babys butt! It must be almost like a metal cutting blade. Sure would hate to have to sharpen it.  ;D

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Re: Crosscutting BB Plywood
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2013, 03:15:23 pm »
Oh, and I'm sure glad you got your problem solved also.

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Re: Crosscutting BB Plywood
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2013, 09:56:12 pm »
You can make a full table crosscut sled, but I cut by bb with a 60t blade and move slow not too fast and have a zero clearance plate. There was a vid of how to cut without tear out, had it on a sled, raised blade to just touching the wood, ran backwards scoring the underside raised blade past wood then made cut, zero tearout perfect clean cut.

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Re: Crosscutting BB Plywood
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2013, 11:23:00 am »
I tend to like skirts with high heals.





oops sorry thought the thread was about cross dressing.


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Re: Crosscutting BB Plywood
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2013, 11:33:25 am »
i tend to like the heels and no skirts

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