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General Category => The Coffee Shop => Topic started by: GrayBeard on January 05, 2012, 05:06:35 pm
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57352784-504083/okla-mom-sarah-mckinley-wont-face-charges-for-shooting-intruder/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57352784-504083/okla-mom-sarah-mckinley-wont-face-charges-for-shooting-intruder/)
Way To GO! Oklahoma!!!
~~~GB~~~
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3 cheers for Ok. Now if the rest of the states would follow.
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Good news she sure doesn't need any of that hanging over her head, she's got enough to worry about as it is!
She exercised perfect gun control.
That's what it is all about.
Everyone has the right to self defense with whatever comes to hand. No such thing as fighting fair, fight to win!
Gabby
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However, prosecutors have charged Martin's alleged accomplice, Dustin Louis Stewart, 29.
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Stewart was charged with first-degree murder.
"When you're engaged in a crime such as first-degree burglary and a death results from the events of that crime, you're subject to prosecution for it," Walters said.
Yepp - Sounds like a long way to go.
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Chalk up one for the good guys!!!
"When they come for your guns, give them the ammo first!"
MIKE
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I'll give a good standing ovation for Oklahoma!!! Shoot first and ask questions later. :)
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They played part of the 911 conversation on our local TV and the dispatcher was very careful to tell her to "wait until he gets inside and then do what you have to do to protect your child and yourself"!!!
I don't know how she remained so cool!!!
~~~GB~~~
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"I don't know how she remained so cool!!!" Or shoot so straight, but thank God she did. :)
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I sometimes wish they would let us do that over here - our P.M. first lol
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I think Illinois is the only state left that needs to pass this law. We need to get it passed!!!
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I think Illinois is the only state left that needs to pass this law. We need to get it passed!!!
Ya gotta get rid of those crooks in office first, or you'll never get it passed!
Gabby
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Shoot first and take my chances. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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I can't tell how happy I am that Europe has left those times behind since the medieval ages!
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Chief, it could not be better presented than that.
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I can't tell how happy I am that Europe has left those times behind since the medieval ages!
No crime in Europe Torsten?
I don't believe that.
So how do you protect yourself if you run into a street gang or someone breaks into your home in the middle of the night while you are sleeping?
Tell them to "gets rouse"? Of course they are going to say oh excuse me and leave scared that you are going to talk rough to them. Pardon my German spelling.
When firearms are outlawed only outlaws will have them. The trusting honest law abiding citizen will be helpless!
I've owned guns my whole life and was a police officer, and never once had to use one but I was ready in the event that it was necessary. We buy insurance to protect ourselves from the losses by fire theft, or accident. A firearm is only another form of insurance.
Gabby
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The second amendment was formed to protect the people from the worst kind of thugs... Corrrupt and hostile government.
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Gabby,
Simple - we don't shoot each other. That has been figured as a problem in conversation, which most times stops abrupt at that point. Handing out weapons to everyone does not solve problems - it brings problems.
Let's explain some:
Borders:
Borders have been taken down in Europe. You can travel wherever you want and work wherever you want. One could live in France, work in Germany, have an appointment in Denmark and head down to Italy (passing Austria) for the weekend - all without control or regulations.
Street gangs:
We have no "street gangs" here in Germany. You can go wherever you want to. There are certainly some areas, that are more problematic then others. But nothing to be afraid of, I can walk alone at night time through the Turkish area in Munich and also through the Steinwall-Area in Hamburg (ultra left, regular riots when police enters the area).
houses:
When someone comes to my ground I usually ask him why he takes the effort to come to me - that has worked quite well in the past.
German houses are locked at night time. Not just locked - the typical German house has stone walls, multiple locked windows & doors and an alarm system. If you succeed in breaking in, you'll probably have notified the neighbors and set the alarm. Neighbors are typical living direct next door, as most German houses are town houses.
I don't say it's never happening - but it has become really seldom. Normally some drug related person searching for money or things they can sell easily. Nothing that is worth to face the thief. So if that would ever happen, I would stay where I am, lock the rooms and call the police. The financial part of the action is covered by insurances.
Bank robbery:
Bank robbery is down to a few a year - nationwide. Banks don't have money around - it's all in the safe, delivered automatically to the cashier. the cashier is not able to draw a big number out - the system is preventing that. The highest you can expect in a bank robbery is 8.000 Euro - that's the limit the system is handing out. Some say they it's cheaper to let the thief get away with it than to close the bank for the rest of the day due to police investigation.
Weapon ownership:
In Germany weapon ownership is regulated. You can have sport guns - but you need to have a need to own one and to prove that you keep it in a safe separated from the bullets (also in a safe). Each murder is a major headline in the news. Also if police officers are using guns - that's always a topic in the news. The question is always if they couldn't do it without weapon.
Unregistered weapons are a problem due to wars in North Africa and the former Yugoslavia. But politics are aware of that and we are constantly making progress to collect and destroy those weapons. One can deliver any unregistered weapon any time to the police and won't face any charges.
So let's say Germany is a pretty safe place to live.