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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: geneVG on August 16, 2011, 10:36:31 pm
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And a Good Evening to everyone,
A while back I ask about Sloan and I had good reports. Well. I ordered from them, and gor my clocks and other stuff too. I also ordered some removable adhesive paper. I used it today. And I have to saay it sure beats any spray. It peeled off with very little scrapeing, and there was no glue to deal with. I just thought I would let you all know about it, which most of you alreay knew.
gene
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Thanks for the tip Gene. I have not used the adhesive paper. I plan to try it sometime.
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one other thing Dan, it dosn't lift up off the board either while you are cutting.
gene
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i have been using removable paper for years now. i would never go back to the spray glue. i stick it on blue tape and it has never lifted up while cutting and it is very easy to removed. no more heat guns and mineral spirits. Mike
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That's what I'm talking about! I'm using adhesive paper too.
It's so easy, come off so simple. I usually put the sticker above the painter tape to avoid ripping the sticker. Works also for fragile parts!
To the concern about the cost: It's a big time saver, no handling of heat guns and other tools. Just rip the pattern sticker off.
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I like it to! I have also just bought nearly the same thing from office supply stores. I don't use it exclusively, but quite often. As Torsten said, the increased cost is paid for in convenience and time savings. Often I will print more than a single pattern on a sheet to make use of the whole sheet, and then just use the 2nd pattern when needed.
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This is something I may try in the near future. It does sound convenient. :)
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@Bill
That's what I'm doing too. It also helps on saving wood if the patterns are already packed. I also have a folder in my wood shop for the patterns I do not use directly.
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been using a similar product staples for quite awhile now.i use painters tape on the wood first then the Adhesive Paper. works great
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I use plain old shelof paper. Cut it to the size I want run it through the printer peel the backing stick it on the wood and cut. Works for me.
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All this talk is great, but no one is mentioning product names or cost per sheet or sizes.
How about the nitty gritty guys.
I know back when I was messing with RC planes I wanted to make some decals to put on it.
Clear adhesive "paper" was a buck a sheet 8 1/2 by 11 at local ofice supply slash print shop.
Don't ask the name all I remember is it started with "A". LOL
Gabby
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Haven't tried the adhesive paper, do you not use the packing tape with that stuff??
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I still put the tape on the bottom or top to help lub the blade.
gene
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@ Gabby
The cost is relative. You need to consider the simpler handling, the time you can save. Also think of the less complicated removing of the pattern - even fragile parts can easily be handled.
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Still didn't answer my questions Torsten. :(
Gabby
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Hey Gabby,
I bought my paper at Sloans, and for 25 sheets it cost me .38 cents each.
gene
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The paper I get from Sloans seems to come off even easier than the sheets of full size self adhesive from the office supply stores.
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Gene that sounds a bit pricey to me. nearly 10 bucks and I presume shipping is additional?
Still no mention of sheet sizes.
You guys are making a trip to the dentist sound easy!
I think i'll stick to the tried and true, blue tape and spray glue, works for me and I can buy it at my local hardware. Supporting my community businesses at the same time.
Thanks for all the information.
Gabby
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Gabby, the size is the normal 8 1/2 by 11 inch sheet. Yes, it is much more expensive per application than normal paper, but removal is so effortless, and I am so computer dependent for printing out my patterns that it is worth the extra to me. I don't use it for everything, but it's a good resource.
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Mine is from Herma (German Brand) costs 0,30 Euro per sheet.
The one from Sloans is 0,30 $(!) per sheet - if the big pack is bought it comes at 0,26$.
This price has to be compared to paper + spray adhesive.
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I wish I could run my wood through the printer, and not have to mess with all this!
LMBO
Gabby
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You actually can run the wood through some printers. I know some Epson and HP printers are able to take thick material and print on them - thick means around 1/32" in this context.
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That sounds like heavy card stock or craft paper maybe. I can't imagine cutting 1/32" material on the saw, don't even know or care where I could find any that thin.
Gabby
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So far I wish I had never ever brought the subject up about the removable adhesive paper. I did not think it would start an argument over it. So how about we just forget I even mentioned it. I did not mean to upset anyone. I think maybe I will not post anything again if it is going to end up like this.
gene
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i dont think it is an argument. it sounds like a friendly discussion to me. how are you going to find out all the different ways to do things if you dont talk about it. i use adhesive paper on portraits &
delicate stuff,everything else i use blue tape. thats my way & until i hear of something i think is better i will stick with it.
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No fight here just discussion. Yep that's how we learn. ;D
We're all entitled to our opinions, and if we don't want to hear them we just go to another thread.
So keep em coming Gene!
Gabby
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Gene, I always hope to hear different opinions! It's always good to hear others people's thoughts about how things can be improved. No one knows it all (except me ;D ).
And this is no argument at all - not even a discussion. Just a bunch of people exchanging their experience & thoughts.
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heres some pricing info for you. I bought a xeron machine from Michaels about 6 yrs. ago for about 100.00 and the adhesive paper is about 40.00 for a 40 foot roll. It was a big investment at the start but now not so bad. I buy something small from Michaels and on the receipt is a 40 percent off coupon so I take that back and get a roll of paper and another 40 percent off coupon. Around Christmas time the coupons go to 50 percent off so I get all of my neighbors papers and stock up. I have had very good luck with this paper. They have repositionable and permanent paper. I use the repositionable. It is very easy to remove when done. I tried the spray glue method when I first started and I had a hard time getting the pattern to stick and when it did I had to use a heat gun and mineral spirits to removed it. I'm not saying the glue method is bad, it's just doesn't work for me. I can print my patterns on regular paper and run it thru the machine and it becomes adhesive paper.