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Title: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: CNLNC on April 19, 2011, 10:54:16 am
Hey everyone, i've seen in a few different posts over time the mention of some people wearing a dust mask while scrollsawing. Is it really needed? Or is it just personal preference.
Does the scrollsaw make that much dust to be concerned with? Just wondering, and thought it would be good to bring up the topic.
I personally do not wear a mask, but was wondering what you all thought.

Thanks ;D
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: julief on April 19, 2011, 10:56:34 am
Scrollsaw dust is so fine that it is easily breathed in.  It is highly recommended to wear a good dust mask because of that.  Also, some woods are highly toxic.  I found that out the hard way.  I still forget to put one on sometimes but I do pay for it later.
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: dgman on April 19, 2011, 11:00:48 am
It is well know that wood dust is a carcinogen. It's not as bad as nicotine, but is dangerous. Some people will develop sensitivity to wood dust also. So yes, you should use a dust mask.
Personally, I don't.
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: ShadowB6 on April 19, 2011, 11:05:22 am
When I was using my Ryobi saw the blower used to blow the dust right back at you, so wearing a mask was a must. With the EX21 I have it set up to blow the dust away from me so I don't bother wearing one. But as Julief said, the particles are so fine that it is almost a guarantee that I'm still breathing in some wood dust. I believe that long term exposure would surely start to affect one's respiratory system. If I was young again (wishful thinking on my part) I think I'd get into the habit of always wearing one.

Mike
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: chief on April 19, 2011, 11:42:51 am
When ever doing wood working you should wear a mask.  Some woods are extremely bad to breath.  I know cedar is one that is real bad, and a lot of tropical woods are bad.  Teak is bad because of the silica in it.  Some people dont have problems with the dust and others have really bad reactions to the saw dust. 
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: GrayBeard on April 19, 2011, 12:09:53 pm
I wear one when doing certain woods, especially MDF! That is not sawdust but a combination of minute wood fibers and adhesives and is so fine it goes everywhere!

In general I keep a fan blowing 'across the saw table' and that keeps most of the particulates moving away from my breathing area.
Also working in the garage with the overhead door almost always fully open helps greatly.

~~~GrayBeard~~~
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: yyyyyguy on April 19, 2011, 02:25:36 pm
I never used to wear one, had so many breathing problems, mostly just starting to choke when not near my saw, I had to get a mask, no problems now but I am still very sensitive to any dust, even pepper. Wish I'd have started using one sooner.
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: mrsn on April 19, 2011, 05:09:49 pm
I have one and try to wear it when ever I am cutting, but I don't always remember. I am better about remebering it when I am sanding, so that must help a bit.
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: chief on April 19, 2011, 05:20:10 pm
Definitely wear one when cutting man made materials like MDF, a lot of them are made using fermaldahyde (sp?).
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: bluesuede on April 19, 2011, 08:23:07 pm
My breathing isn't great at the best of times, using puffers daily so I generally wear a mask when cutting. It's a pain in the butt sometimes cause your glasses steam up or you have to take it off to blow dust away and I sometimes forget to put it back on but for me it is a necessity.

I like GrayBeards use of the fan.

So is a dust mask really needed, it's your choice, better safe than sorry...

Bruce ;D
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: ShadowB6 on April 19, 2011, 08:43:20 pm
Bluesuede, if you go to a medical supply outfit you can get what is called "N95" masks that seal tight around your face so that your glasses won't fog up. I've tried them and they're great for this purpose.
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: bluesuede on April 19, 2011, 09:04:44 pm
Thanks ShadowB6, I will check them out...
Bruce ;D
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: RWEC on April 19, 2011, 10:21:22 pm
I have the blower angled to blow away from me left to right and a pickup from my dust collector hovering over the table back right so the dust is blown toward it and then picked up.

I used to get a fair buildup on the project and table but now next to nothing.

I admit I can't see it if it's 5 micron size but my thought is that if I'm picking up the bigger stuff, the little stuff is being sucked up too.

Having said that, I've been wrong before.

Randy
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: ChuckD on April 19, 2011, 10:48:47 pm
A good test..  If you wear glasses, and you should, if they get dust on them you are breathing it..  Simple as that!!!!
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: tux_linux on April 20, 2011, 03:24:23 am
My wood shop needs a "mask" rather more than me.

I personally never wear a mask while in the shop. I wear "Mickey Mouse ears" when loud machines are in use like the router.

I also consider the scroll saw not to be such a big deal in making dust - there are certainly other, more dust producing forms of woodwork. The projects are also not that big.

regards
Torsten
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: lwilli on April 20, 2011, 10:47:49 am
It is indeed personal preference, but your preference should be to wear it. I always wear a mask and glasses. I also went as far to add an air cleaning unit from Rockler for my shop. After I witnessed the amount of air borne dust that is collected in the filter from the air cleaner I am very glad I wear the mask. That filter could represent your lungs. If you enjoy this art then you should try and preserve your health as long as possible to further enjoy making projects and wearing a mask is a small price to pay.

Louis
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: dunk on April 20, 2011, 10:51:05 am
I've only been given 1 set of lungs.  I try and remember to wear a dust mask all the time when cutting or sanding.  I also have the delta air purifier hung from the ceiling.
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: CNLNC on April 20, 2011, 11:08:48 am
So, it seems that the overwelming response is that scrollers should wear a mask, but some don't even though they know they should.
In my case, there are so many other things I come in contact with that I should be protecting my lungs from but don't, then what's a little sawdust. I know that is a terrible attitude, and that I should try and protect my lungs when ever possible, an ounce of prevention and all that.

Thanks for all the info and suggestions. At the minimum I will look into providing better ventilation in my work area. Hope you all got something out of this post.

Now go make some sawdust and hold your breath... ;D
Title: Re: Dust mask really needed?
Post by: jimbo on April 20, 2011, 10:44:41 pm
I use a series of dust extractors that I have put on the forum one under the saw and the other on top of the saw and when cutting MDF I always wear a mask, some said they have an air purifier they are very good but not in the ceiling as you are drawing the dust up past your face so you must be inhaling it
After you have finished in your work shop for the day wipe your saw bench down and the next day see if there is dust on it
Jimbo