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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: Tako Kichi on April 12, 2011, 10:53:10 pm
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Having been held up with other projects since my new scroll saw came home last week I finally started cutting some wood tonight. Nothing fancy just a name plate out of some scrap 1x2 (actually 3/4" x 1 5/8") pine stock I had lying around from a previous project. It did lead to some interesting discoveries however, some good, some bad!
1. The 'tool-less' screw clamps I made for pinless blades are going to have to be modified as the screws are fractionally too short and the knob nut fouls on the holder body before the screws tighten fully on the blade.
2. I need more light as my own shadow from the overhead room light falls right over the work area and makes seeing the blade/line difficult.
3. Tri-focal spectacles are a bear when it comes to scroll work and I got a sore neck from constantly moving my head around trying to find a 'sweet spot' where I could see the blade/line in focus.
4. The pinless blades stocked by my local hardware store (Pegas brand, #4 skip tooth - they have a range of blades there including spiral cut blades) seem to do a good job cutting the 3/4" pine with no breaking or burning (so far) and next to no fuzzies on the back face. I just grabbed one pack to try as the saw only came with two thick pin type blades but having a usable local source for blades could be very useful.
Tomorrow I am going to try a couple of pairs of my old single magnification spectacles to see if they are any better and I am also thinking of picking up a magnifier/lamp to see if that improves things. I have seen people on here mention the cheap 'reading' glasses and that may be an option too.
All in all it was an interesting hour or so even if I did only make three internal cuts on my project.
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Hey Larry, Sounds like your are having some fun! For 3/4" pine I would use a #5 skip tooth blade. The #4 will work OK, but a #5 will cut better in the 3/4" pine.
As for the light, I would check out your nearest office supply store for a lighted magnifier. I have had one for years, and could not scroll without it!
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Got to start somewhere Larry!
I'm near sighted as a bat!
If i have my contact lenses installed, I have to use a pair of readers (drugstore kind) along with my combination lamp and magnifier to see the line and the blade. I picked mine up at a yard sale a few years ago. I think if were to buy one new I'd look at the flexible ones available now, mine looks sort of like a crane and can be awkward to position it also has a circular flourescent tube type bulb.
I also have a pair of "emergency" prescription glasses that are graduated for far and near, and only use the magnifier with them. Had to do some experimenting to find just the right combination for me.
I suspect you will also.
Make lots of dust.
Gabby
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Thanks for the replies guys. As to my eyes, I had perfect sight up until I was about 45 years old and they have been getting steadily worse ever since (getting older sucks!...lol). With the tri-focals I talked my eye doctor into specifying the lenses so that the top 1/3 is for far distance (so that I can see to drive), the middle 1/3 is virtually plain glass and the lower 1/3 has a magnifying lens so that I could see to work on small electronic circuits which require precision soldering (but they appear to be too strong for scroll work unless I put my nose almost on the upper arm!) I don't normally wear any glasses when working on the computer or around the house but I am due for another eye exam within the next 6 months so who knows what will happen then.
Maybe an illuminated magnifier is the way to go.
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The illuminated magnifiers really are handy when doing fine work. I had one of the flexible neck, led types but it was recalled. Then I was given one of the old folding crane types with the circular flourescent bulb. I much prefer the circular bulb type! I did have a problem in thata when a blade broke sometimes the saw's upper arm would hit the bulb and break it, so I cut a plastic clear doughnut and attached it under the bulb. Problem solved!
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Hey Diver Bill, I sure would like to find a brighter tube for mine, as for the broken tube problem I haven't experienced that yet I always make sure it clears the upper arm. I do like the idea of a plastic shield. did you make it as a disc or just a ring? I've noticed the dust wants to cling to the lense, and I'm afraid plastic would attract it even more if a static charge builds up.
Gabby
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Ditto on the magnifier light. I have the progressive vision problem too and my light helps a bunch.
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I also need help to see the line for scrolling. Since I am almost always at the same distance from the blade, I have gone to a fixed reading glass. I just measured how far I was from the blade and went to the dollar store and tried different power glasses while reading fine print at that same distance. Its about the same power as what you would used for the computer, maybe a little stronger. Works great, can move my neck around so I don't get stiff and I can leave then at the saw so they're always there when I need them.
Bill
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I have readers, an illuminated visor with various magnifying lenses, and the light. I use the light for fine stuff, and readers for everything else. Gabby, I made a doughnut shaped ring out of clear acrylic. Works really well. My light attracts dust too, so when not in use I turn it upside down. Doesn't eliminate the dust but it helps. I don't recall the wattage, but the bulbs are available @ the big boxes and seem bright enough for me. Maybe my RBI saw is more prone to breaking them than your saw is.
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Another source to consider for the light is Harbor Freight. They sell two types, but the one I bought and really like has a circular fluorescent bulb, but also has a hinged lid on top of the light that covers the magnifier portion when you're not using it. Eliminates the dust gathering. I have the RBI Hawk 220vs, and left off the clamp portion of the mount. This left a tube that fit perfectly into the hole RBI made for such lights. Cost was about $30.
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I was at a neighbors garage sale over the weekend and found a magnifier with a regular light bulb. I am very anxious to get it set up. They gave it to me for free also.I wear bifocals glasses just for my work and seeing the computer. I had the eye place make them for me.
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Are magnifiers useful if you don't have bifocals or reading glasses?
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Katie, Magnifiers are especially helpful on very detailed patterns. My son-in-law doesn't wear glasses and can't cut without it.
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Katie, I don't wear glasses although I should, But I could not scroll without mine!
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Thanks! I might have to get one to try out.
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Today I spent a couple of hours snooping around a number of stores in the next (larger) town trying to find a desktop magnifier/lamp unit. The ones I could find were either too small (magnifier 4" dia. or less), too flimsy (weak looking 'arms' prone to vibration issues), lamp too dim (a single LED) or too expensive for my pocket. Unfortunately places like 'Harbor Freight' do not exist in Canada.
However, while pondering various things I did come up with an idea! I managed to find an 8" x 10" magnifier with a 2x Fresnel lens in Walmart's craft section. This thing is ideal as it has a large viewing area, is very clear and is very lightweight as it is made of plastic. The cost?.............a whopping $4.65 CDN!!!!
I also picked up a small aluminum 9 LED flashlight with a blindingly bright beam from another store for $3.00 CDN.
While I was standing in the store trying to figure out a way of mounting the flashlight my wife handed me a small package and said "Would this work?" What she had given me was a package of two 'Broom Clips' of the type used for hanging brooms on the wall. They turned out to be a perfect fit on the flashlight body and it means I can easily unclip the light if I need it to see somewhere else on the machine (like in the bottom tray after I have dropped the blade adapter for the N-th time! >:( ::)) The cost for these was $2.00 CDN for a pair.
So for less than $10.00 CDN I have the makings of a very nice magnifier/lamp setup.
I already have a suitable stand that I originally made as a grooming stand for our dog when he was a pup. As he has now outgrown it I can put it to a good alternative use and a little ingenuity on the bracket/clamp front should solve the remaining issues. I plan on taking photos of the 'build' and could post them on the 'Tips' forum if it is a successful project.
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Now that's creative, and if / when it works you'll be able to say "I made it myself" such a satisfying feeling!
Gabby
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I made the magnifier/lamp stand and put a post up about it in the 'Tips' forum here.... http://stevedgood.com/community/index.php?topic=5491.0
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Whoever said it is right, this getting old stuff is for the birds.
My eyes have gone as well. I use an old set of bifocals that coupled with the 3x's magnifier with a circular fluorescent do the trick. Have to play around to get just the right distance from the magnifier but once I find the sweet spot it's all good.
Couldn't cut anything with any detail without both the light and the magnifier. I got one of the crane style with the dust lid as well.
Randy