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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: S.A.W. on April 07, 2011, 06:21:39 pm
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I'm looking to buy a scroll saw, or any other tool that may do a better job if anyone has any insight, for the purpose of hollowing books. i.e. Book box or secret safe type of things. I've been using a utility blade but the pain in my arm has led me to the decision to buy something that requires much less manual labor.
After doing some research I found that someone else had used this sort of tool do to the same thing I do but I'm at a loss of what kind of scroll saw (or other machine) to start with. I have moderate experience with different kinds of power tools and saws.
Anyways, I'm looking for something between $100-$200 that would work for cutting though paper that's been bounded down between two thin boards. The thickness of the paper could measure anywhere between 1/4" to 3" at the very most. (Most of my books are no more than 2").
Any help or suggestions are welcome. :)
~Sequoia~ >:]
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A scrollsaw is the perfect tool for hollowing books. The max thickness on most scrollsaws is 2". There was a review of scrollsaws recently in Scrollsaw magazine (Issue #41) that ranked the Porter Cable (available at Lowe's) the best in it's price range.
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A scroll saw is the perfect tool for hollowing books. The max thickness on most scroll saws is 2". There was a review of scroll saws recently in Scroll saw magazine (Issue #41) that ranked the Porter Cable (available at Lowe's) the best in it's price range.
There is only one problem with Julie's answer about buying a scroll saw to hollow books.
Once you start you'll likely not quit, it's "catching"! ;D
Gabby
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SAW--just a question--how are you sticking the pages or are you leaving them loose???? Richard aka thumbs ::) ::) ::) ::)
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I have made a couple of these, here is how I do it.
I take most of the pages and sandwich them between pieces of wood, secured with some nails in the cut out part. You want to be a little careful to keep the pages straight as you secure them together. Then dril an entry hole and cut. Then I glued the pages together at the opening. I use either super glue or white elmers glue for this. You want to keep the pages straight for this part or it will look weird when closed. Also try to keep the glue on the inside and not to the outside edge so it looks normal when closed. Also be careful to not glue the cover. Once dry, I paint the inside, but you could use felt or flocking.
so that's how I do it.
MrsN
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I have a birthday party for a younger cousin tomorrow and got to thinking about this project, so I decided to make him a book safe. I had a bit too much time on my hands so I took some start to finish pictures of the process.
If you are interested in how I did it you can check it out here
https://picasaweb.google.com/KNWoodworking/BookSafe#
MrsN
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Very cool, Mrs. N.
Bill
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Good tutorial, now I want to make at least one, I'll be looking at my local thrift store or used book store for a likely book to cut up.
I'm thinking if someone wants to use this in their book case, the title should blend with the other subject matter on the shelf so it won't stand out as different which would draw attention to it. Devious I am.
Gabby
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Well done, Katie!
Accurate, complete and very informative!
I foresee a run on used book stores in the near future....
BTW I really like that 'cute hammer'!!!
~~~GrayBeard~~~
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Devious I am.
It's a thin blue line, Gabby! ;)
BTW I really like that 'cute hammer'!!!
~~~GrayBeard~~~
I caught that too GB! :D
Nice work Katie!
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Ya know Katie I thought about doing one myself but Never could figure out how to do it....Now thanks to you I think I can do it when I get my new saw Thank you.
I with GB cute Hammer BTW...
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Thank you for the pictures. I am now inspired.
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Thanks for posting the pictures/tutorial Katie. I think I am going to give this a try also. :)
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thumbs : I was planning on doing something similar to what Mrs. N was doing as for sticking the pages together. Gluing the pages will depend on the book; some books have a nice outer edging that I like to keep in tack so I only glue the inside if not I usually start by gluing the outside and hallowing it out one page at a time. Hope I answered your question.
I'll post pictures later of some of my current in progress pieces.
Thanks for all the help.
~Sequoia~ >:]
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Missed the hammer on the first round.
It must be a GIRL thing. Right Katie?
Does it drive nails any better?
Gabby
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Can't wait to see the rest of her tools!
Can't imagine a "Flowered Router"!
~~~GB~~~
[teasing, Katie, just teasing!]
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SAW, you got some very good answers.
Hope you will find the right saw.
Did you know that SAW stands for Scrollsaw Association of the World.
It might be a protected name. Why don't you call Lucille Brooke @ 610-775-0871 if it is OK to use.
FD Mike
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MrsN,
Great job on another tutorial. That project looks really cool. Before we know it there will be a series of "MrsN Tutorials."
Thanks for sharing, and yes, cute hammer. :)
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SAW, you got some very good answers.
Hope you will find the right saw.
Did you know that SAW stands for Scrollsaw Association of the World.
It might be a protected name. Why don't you call Lucille Brooke @ 610-775-0871 if it is OK to use.
FD Mike
Who is Lucille Brooke? Also is this a personal or professional number?
~Sequoia~ >:]
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Lucille Brooke is a scroller like most of us and is the president of SAW.
Go to Google and check it out. Scrollsaw Association of The World -
If they have no opjection that is fine with me.
My connection with saw is, that I have been a member from day one and became a life member about 5 years ago.
FD Mike
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How about this http://saw.org/
It doesn't sound like they have a copy right for the name SAW
Gabby
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Although SAW is a good organization, and I mean no disrespect, nobody owns the copyright on an acronym.
Bill
P.S. (added later) I was in court when the Southern Oregon Dental Association sued the Southern Oregon Drug Awareness over their use of SODA, and the judge cited many precedences, as well as law, about acronyms.
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Hi Folks,
I just got of the phone with Lucy and she was saying the same thing about being a acronym.
She would check with some other board members.
Glad to hear that it is OK to use.
FD Mike
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Thanks for the comments!
The hammer was a gift from my grandmother when I was in school. She never could quite get over that I was going to be a shop teacher. Gabby, it does drive nails a little better but only because it is always in my shop. For some reason my husband never borrows my flower tools. I have a couple of screw drivers, a tape measure and of course the hammer. GB, I really wish I could find a flowered router, that would be so fun. I might have to learn to paint and make my own ;)
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Katie, I'm still laughing. I can just imagine a big macho man showing up on the job site with your hammer. He'd never live it down. You could paint any kind of flowers as long as the colors are BRIGHT and he'll NEVER touch it.
LMAO
Gabby
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I'm somewhat confused on how it would be illegal to use the name S.A.W. if they were my legal initials?
~Sequoia~ >:]
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It's not, Sequoia. As one of my granddaughter's stuffed animals sings, "Don't worry, be happy."
Bill
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I'm somewhat confused on how it would be illegal to use the name S.A.W. if they were my legal initials?
~Sequoia~ >:]
It isn't illegal, just forget about it.
There are much more important things to worry about.
Gabby
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Just like Gabby said, forget about it.
Let's get back to helping eachother with our scrolling projects ;D
Now go make that book and show us some Pics.
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So does anyone else have any suggestions, in my price range, of Scroll Saws it would be useful to look into?
~Sequoia~ >:]
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in your price range I would go with the porter-cable from lowes.
I have run it a couple of times in the store, and it seems like a decent saw. It also appears to be the same as the Hitachi scroll saw that Lowes used to carry. I own the Hitachi and love it.
If you are interested in looking for a used saw, I would look for a dewalt.
Also, sorry for hijacking your thread ;)
MrsN
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I like to look into all my options before making a pricey purchase.
I don't commit to easily before I'm sure I'm making a good buy.
But thanks and no problem I enjoy good conversation.
So for book carving purposes what kind of blades would be recommended?
~Sequoia~ >:]
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I used a number 7 on the one I did this weekend. The stack is pretty thick and paper is hard on the blade.
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I could imagine. I'll look into that.
Thanks a bunch. :)
~Sequoia~ >:]
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Let me know if there is anything else I can help out with!
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Wow Katie, thanks for the pictorial, gotta go find a book...
Bruce ;D
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Sequoia,
No one mentioned Craig's list some pretty good deals can be found there. Just be careful and test drive anything you are considering, don't get in a hurry either, take the time to research these things before you lay your money down. Opinions are like noses, everyone has one.
One of the things I do before buying anything new or used is a web search with the word reviews associated with the product. It's not fool proof but it gives you a base to work from. There are many posts here on the forum concerning the best one, look them up.
Good luck,
Gabby