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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: Danny on March 10, 2011, 04:04:16 pm
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I know you all say there is no Dumb question, but I am getting into a new phase of scroll projects. Using 1/8" Baltic Birch Ply.
Is there a formula of which blade to use for how many is stacked?
My blade chart states to use a #5 or #6 (haven't even heard of a #6) for
1/2" wood. I use FD blades and kind of want to stack 8 and the chart states to use a #7. Wow! My #7 is pretty aggressive. Can't imagine cutting the tiny lil inside cuts with this. Anyway I would just Love to hear all of your feelings. Thanks in Advance.... Danny :+}
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I've cut up to 6 pieces of 1/8" with a #5R but on really intricate cuts the bottom piece or two look a bit sloppy.
Pete
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with a stack of 8 with 1/8" I would probably try a number 5 and change it often. If the pattern was simple a number 7 would be easier. Depending on the project I migt do two stacks of 4, to make it easier.
I don't follow any type of formula for picking a blade. I use the feeling it gives me. However, I bet 80% of the time I use a number 5 of some sort.
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I do not stack cut, but I do use an Untra reverse #3 from Mike. Takes the place of the Olsen #2 reverse I used to use.
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Hey Danny, 8 layers of 1/8" makes 1". You can't make to intricate cuts in that thickness of wood. Not to mention Baltic birch is tough on blades anyways. So if I was doing a portrait with intricate cuts in it I would cut three or four stacked and use a FD UR 1 or 3 and FD NS 1 or 3 spiral blades.
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I gotta agree with Dan on this. I've been using the FD-UR's quite a bit lately and am pretty happy with them, but I wouldn't try to stack 8 thick and cut anything very detailed. ;)
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yeah, 8 Layers is to much do saw at a time. A stacked set of woods is much harder than a single piece.
Split the pile, make it 4 layers at a time. That's tough enough, and you can go with the usual SR#5 or a SR#3 for the small bits. I have UR-blades too, but I didn't get into using them really (yet!).
regards
Torsten
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A Big Thank You to all that offered advice. I successfully cut a ornament that had 21 inside cuts. Took your advice with stacking only 4. Experimented with 8 on scrap and Yep bottom layer was not to good.
And after my experments and your advice it is and will be the FD-UR #5 for all over-all cuts. Tks again.... Danny :+}
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Danny, not to sound like a smart a--, the best blade to use is a sharp one-- I am for ever using a blade too long and all of a sudden I mess something up.. I keep telling myself to change more often but-- ------Richard aka thumbs
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WATCH where the blade interacts with the wood! When it starts to bow a little bit ...IT is time to CHANGE!
Catch myself doing it all the time..."Oh well just one more cut!" then I'll change it!
WRONG...Do It NOW, Dummy! it is getting dull and it is CHEAPER than a ruined job!
Especially true of 'spiral blades' and portraits! They dull fast when 'stack cutting'!!!!!!
~~~GrayBeard~~~
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YEAH... and never put on in backwards (does not work to well).
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Wow, I just learned a lot. Thanks all. still getting blades from Home depot. This is a great place!!
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Cutter, just a thought...check out mikes work shop. I was converted from olsen blade to flying duchmen and really love the way they cut. http://www.mikesworkshop.com/ (http://www.mikesworkshop.com/)
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Danny, I have done a lot of production cutting (1000 pieces) and have found that a stack of 4 or 5 of 1/8" is the most efficient. I prefer 4. Cutting more than that slows you down enough that you can get as many done with shorter stacks in the same amount of time and use fewer blades. My rule of thumb when stacking is no more than 3/4" total.
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I agree with Kepy...no more than 5 pieces of 1/8 bb in a stack. There is too much damage and frustration.
Jim
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I agree with most of the comments. You will save time is you stack cut 4 instead of 8. However I do use #1 UR, a lot and even the#1 new spirals from Mike. Less fuzzies and sanding.
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Max 4 for me, i find that any more than that and you end up with wasted wood on the bottom and where as I am kinda cheap...
Bruce
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To sum up the whole discussion....
1. Don't try to cut to large a stack of wood especially with 'spiral' blades.
2. The Best blade to cut ANYTHING, wood, meat, twine, hide, whatever is a SHARP blade!
[this bit of advice comes from one who has been a meatcutter for many years and a chef for almost as many]
~~~GB~~~