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Title: Well, I Thought of Another Question
Post by: pddesertrat on July 08, 2014, 08:09:40 pm
How do you leave your scroll saw.  By that I me, 1. do you release the tension on the blade when you are do for the day or awhile or 2. do you leave it with tension on or 3.  do you take off the tension, loosen the blade and lift the arm, or does it matter??  What is best for the saw?
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Post by: danpage1 on July 08, 2014, 08:43:03 pm
I always release the tension from the blade but do not disconnect the blade.
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Post by: mrsn on July 08, 2014, 08:48:38 pm
I usually release the blade from the top clamp (I'm a bottom feeder). I make most of my cuts as inside cuts, even outside perimeter cuts I drill an entry hole and cut as inside cuts. So when I am done for the day, I just take my piece off the saw.
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Post by: Reaper on July 08, 2014, 10:58:05 pm
I always release the blade tension, add oil after using for more then 10 hours and always vacuum around it.
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Post by: Intarsia92 on July 09, 2014, 12:14:43 am
I always release the tension when I quit for lunch or done for the day, but I do not release the blade.
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Post by: Blue Peeps on July 09, 2014, 02:54:20 am
I scroll with a DeWalt 788, and when I am done using it I release the blade tension and remove the blade from the top blade clamp. I leave the arm in the down position (I use "The Lifter" on my saw to hold up its arm).

I usually vacuum all of the sawdust off from it when I am finished, too.

I was very fortunate to get a Type 1 DeWalt that had only been used a few times for a very good price, so I try to take really good care of it, so that it will last me for a long time. I've greased the needle bearings with very high quality grease and keep the table well-waxed, also.
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Post by: julief on July 09, 2014, 06:23:33 am
I release the tension - leave the blade.
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Post by: Jim Finn on July 09, 2014, 07:41:04 am
When I am finished with a saw for a while I leave it just as it is.  Either under tension or not.  I use my saws every day so they do not sit long with tension on them.  Overnight maybe.
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Post by: Toneman on July 09, 2014, 09:07:33 am
I use an EX 21 and I release the tension when I am done. The manual also recommends doing this. Since I am a top feeder, I also go ahead and remove the blade from the bottom holder.

Tony,aka,Toneman
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Post by: pddesertrat on July 09, 2014, 10:44:28 am
I always release the blade tension, add oil after using for more then 10 hours and always vacuum around it.

What do you oil?  Maybe I need to dig my manual and read,  naa, men don't read instructions or ask directions! ;D
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Post by: pddesertrat on July 09, 2014, 10:46:37 am
I scroll with a DeWalt 788, and when I am done using it I release the blade tension and remove the blade from the top blade clamp. I leave the arm in the down position (I use "The Lifter" on my saw to hold up its arm).

I usually vacuum all of the sawdust off from it when I am finished, too.

I was very fortunate to get a Type 1 DeWalt that had only been used a few times for a very good price, so I try to take really good care of it, so that it will last me for a long time. I've greased the needle bearings with very high quality grease and keep the table well-waxed, also.

I keep reading "Type 1",  I don't know which I have and what is the difference between a "type 1" and any other DeWalt scroll saw?
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Post by: pierre62 on July 09, 2014, 10:51:43 am
I release the tension - leave the blade.
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Post by: ChuckD on July 09, 2014, 04:21:28 pm
I release the tension.  I didn't once and when I came back the blade was three inches longer.  Of course I was gone that time for two weeks.  :) :) :)
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Post by: GrayBeard on July 09, 2014, 09:29:52 pm
On my DeWalt I release the tension, release the top blade holder, raise the arm to hook in my 'lifter' and blow all the dust off the saw and surrounding area.
Depending on what else I have been doing in the shop I may fire up the leaf blower, open the garage door and blow all the dust & shavings out the door, shut the door and pray for rain!

Hey! It works for me!

~~~GB~~~
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Post by: Reaper on July 10, 2014, 12:07:49 am
I have a Hegner and there are four spots on the arm that needs to be oiled from time to time....
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Post by: tvman44 on July 10, 2014, 07:48:44 am
I try to release the tension, sometimes I forget.  :o
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Post by: old wormy on July 10, 2014, 09:31:16 am
Paul,
Look on the motor of the DW788 and it will either say type 1 or type 2.
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Post by: pddesertrat on July 10, 2014, 09:42:05 am
Paul,
Look on the motor of the DW788 and it will either say type 1 or type 2.

Thank you.

Mine says Type 2, what kind of problems should I expect?
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Post by: Ray on July 10, 2014, 01:18:47 pm
This was actually a good question. I really never thought about it before and just left the saw in whichever condition it was when I stopped. Either under tension, or if I happened to have been doing an inside cut, then no tension with the bottom blade holder open.

I can see the benefit of leaving the saw without tension.

Food for thought though. Since I use a foot pedal exclusively I tend to leave the saws power switch on. I know this is a bad habit though, and goes against good tool safety.

I do have a reason though. The Dewalt DW788 type 2 is notorious for having power switch problems, mostly dust related. I've already replaced mine twice a couple years ago. By leaving the switch on I haven't had an issue since.

Again, I don't recommend it due to tool safety, but the scroll saw isn't like a table saw that's gonna remove body parts if accidentally turned on.

I have occasionally hit the foot pedal by accident even while working on a project and the saw does make an awful sound when turned on without tension.

Ray
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Post by: ChuckD on July 10, 2014, 02:18:29 pm
Ray with the set up I use there is no power to the saw until I hit the foot switch, so I don't think it mattes if you leave the saw on or not.  Both of mine have been on for several "Years" with no problems
Title: Re: Well, I Thought of Another Question
Post by: pddesertrat on July 10, 2014, 03:09:31 pm
I leave my saw switch on.  (I have a foot pedal).  But even so, I vacuum the saw switch regularly and work it every once in a while.  The reason I do that, I have a remote switch for my shop dust collector, means I leave the unit's switch in the on position. Even so, it quit working once.  The DC would not start even with the remote.  I cleaned the unit switch and blew it out real good with the compressor and exercised it switching it on/off and it started working again.  So I believe, even though it is left in the on position, it needs to be clean and exercised routinely.  Just my experience, not to be taken too seriously.
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Post by: Wooden gifts uk on July 10, 2014, 03:38:19 pm
I scroll with a DeWalt 788, and when I am done using it I release the blade tension and remove the blade from the top blade clamp. I leave the arm in the down position (I use "The Lifter" on my saw to hold up its arm).

I usually vacuum all of the sawdust off from it when I am finished, too.

I was very fortunate to get a Type 1 DeWalt that had only been used a few times for a very good price, so I try to take really good care of it, so that it will last me for a long time. I've greased the needle bearings with very high quality grease and keep the table well-waxed, also.
Hi what wax do you use on the table
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Post by: ChuckD on July 10, 2014, 03:41:04 pm
I have my switches sealed from dust.  I won't say with what but they are long and made with thin material that keeps stuff from going out, in this case from going in.  They have worked for several years with no problem.  I do have them hidden with a little tape just so they are not obvious.  And no, I won't post any pictures.. :) :)   
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Post by: pddesertrat on July 10, 2014, 04:35:07 pm
I scroll with a DeWalt 788, and when I am done using it I release the blade tension and remove the blade from the top blade clamp. I leave the arm in the down position (I use "The Lifter" on my saw to hold up its arm).

I usually vacuum all of the sawdust off from it when I am finished, too.

I was very fortunate to get a Type 1 DeWalt that had only been used a few times for a very good price, so I try to take really good care of it, so that it will last me for a long time. I've greased the needle bearings with very high quality grease and keep the table well-waxed, also.
Hi what wax do you use on the table

I'm not Blue Peeps, but I'll tell you what I use, Johnson's Paste Wax.  I use it on all my machines.  Any good wax is good to use as long as it DOESN'T have silicon in it (lots of car waxes have silicon). 
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Post by: ChuckD on July 10, 2014, 06:03:22 pm
I bought a spray can of "Top-Cote" a long time ago.  It has never allowed any rust and the table is slick.  Do it once every six months or so so the can is lasting a long time.  You can see it here and you may see it cheaper somewhere else, but I like it and as I said it will last a long time.
http://www.amazon.com/Bostik-10220-Aerosol-Top-Cote/dp/B0000223UD
Title: Re: Well, I Thought of Another Question
Post by: Blue Peeps on July 11, 2014, 07:36:48 pm


I keep reading "Type 1",  I don't know which I have and what is the difference between a "type 1" and any other DeWalt scroll saw?

It's my understanding that production for the Type 2 was moved from Canada to Taiwan, and that the transition resulted in several quality control issues.

I've heard it suggested that the problems have been ironed out, but I do not know that to be a fact. It seems that most people with newer Type 2's are pleased with them, so I assume that any remaining issues are minor ones, but again, I do not know that to be a fact.

My Type 1 is a wonderful saw, but if I needed to replace it I would first confirm whether or not DeWalt has indeed resolved all of the quality control problems surrounding the Type 2's before considering one.
If there were still any lingering issues, I would probably step up to an Excalibur. Hopefully I won't need to make that decision for a long while, though.  :)
Title: Re: Well, I Thought of Another Question
Post by: Blue Peeps on July 11, 2014, 07:45:55 pm

I scroll with a DeWalt 788, and when I am done using it I release the blade tension and remove the blade from the top blade clamp. I leave the arm in the down position (I use "The Lifter" on my saw to hold up its arm).

I usually vacuum all of the sawdust off from it when I am finished, too.

I was very fortunate to get a Type 1 DeWalt that had only been used a few times for a very good price, so I try to take really good care of it, so that it will last me for a long time. I've greased the needle bearings with very high quality grease and keep the table well-waxed, also.

Hi what wax do you use on the table

Hi, I use Minwax Paste Finishing Wax on my table, but Johnson Paste Wax is a very popular choice, and usually costs around half of what the Minwax does, from what I have seen.
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Post by: bubbaloo158 on July 15, 2014, 10:55:03 pm
@Ray...

I too use a foot switch with my DW788 type 2 and I'm doing so because of some warnings I read before buying the saw.  I was advised to cover the power switch with packing tape, which I did.  Just over 2 years now with the power switch left in the on position and no problems whatsoever.

-- Bobby
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Post by: scotti158 on July 25, 2014, 07:06:44 pm
On my DW788 I loosen the tension on the blade.
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Post by: BilltheDiver on July 25, 2014, 08:09:42 pm
Release the arm tension.  Got in the habit from the bandsaw where the tension is so much greater.  Then I go have a jack and coke and release the tension in the operator. 8)