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Title: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: Rightarm on June 27, 2010, 08:13:59 am
    I have an old Dremel. So I found it a little easier for me to cut on slow. My saw has just two speeds. I'm thinking about installing a variable speed switch. I really don't think it would take much to do. Dave 8)
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: scrollgirl on June 27, 2010, 08:22:07 am
I would think that the results would be positive.  It would make it lots easier on you to be able to pick just the right speed for what you are cutting. I am sure some folks here have some great ideas on the best way to do it.  I say 'go for it'!

Sheila
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: GrayBeard on June 27, 2010, 09:09:40 am
I agree with Sheila. If I had only two speeds I would have given up when I started! Fortunately I went from ONE speed to VS and would have it no other way.

I would think that a rheostat type speed control would work but someone more intune with the intricacies of motors would have to verify that.
Any electronics experts lurking out there?

~~~GrayBeard~~~
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: northie66 on June 27, 2010, 09:19:32 am
I have the dewalt scroll saw... I never adjust the speed.  It's either on or off... that's about it.  I don't think I'd want to adjust the speed.  But, that could be just me.
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: sp_343 on June 27, 2010, 09:38:04 am
If you could get a speed control wired in and working it would be perfect.  I sometimes adjust the speed on my DeWalt, but I usually take it slow...makes it easier for me to stay on the line.

I also added a foot pedal and that was like a gift from above.  Wouldn't work without it.
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: cherie on June 27, 2010, 01:30:19 pm
I do adjust my speed, depending upon what I am cutting.  If it is thicker, I usually slow the machine down, when I am doing the ornaments and such, it is a faster speed, but it is also what I have become accustom to.  So just my thoughts, play and see what ya come up with.  There are guides and suggestions from various wood working sites that can give you something to go by.  Off the top of my head, I cannot remember, but I am sure they are in Jaun's favorites and I will have to get on his laptop to find them.
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: Rightarm on June 27, 2010, 01:39:41 pm
    SP, I have installed a foot pedal. I bought it at the Harbor Freight. I have seen them advertised for about $30.00. But I found it there for $10.00. Works great. I wouldn't be without one either. I really think Im going to put on a reo switch, play around with it. But for now, slow works for me. Dave 8)
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: Crabbyboater on June 27, 2010, 06:16:35 pm
The foot pedal for on-off works great and I wouldn't be without it.  But that doesn't adjust the speed.  I would think you could install a rheostat type control in line with the power cord to adjust the speed.  Use a single-gang electrical box mounted somewhere convenient to adjust it.  As for the control itself, ask someone with electrical knowledge at the store (Home Depot, etc.) to recommend a control for an AC motor handling whatever amount of power your saw takes, either in amps or watts.  Be sure the control can handle that amount of power or a bit more.

I kept thinking about the foot controls for sewing machines that control both the speed and on-off, but you'd have to keep fairly steady pressure on the switch for long periods of time.  I see no reason you can't make this, and it shouldn't cost a whole lot either. 
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: Rapid Roger on June 27, 2010, 06:56:13 pm

I kept thinking about the foot controls for sewing machines that control both the speed and on-off, but you'd have to keep fairly steady pressure on the switch for long periods of time.  I see no reason you can't make this, and it shouldn't cost a whole lot either. 

I considered a sewing machine pedal when I was looking for mine and thought that the cord looked a might lightweight for something in the shop. I never considered the fact that it has a reastat in it too. That would be a real PITA trying to controll the speed with my #11s and a shaky ankle too! Besides they are more expensive that what I ended up with anyway.
I realize that cost is a very important factor with any hobby but, I have found that I would rather save-UP  (;D) and get something that works and I will be happy with, rather than saving $5.00 on a less expensive item and cussing it for months before I break DOWN (;D) and buy what I wanted to begin with.


Rog
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: carlton4143 on June 27, 2010, 08:24:44 pm
this is an easy one. Get a router speed control. Takes up to 15 amps and isn't that much money.
I put one on my mini lathe and it works great.
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: boxmaker on June 27, 2010, 08:50:03 pm
You beat me to it carlton. Here are two links Dave.

http://www.harborfreight.com/router-speed-control-43060.html


http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/speed_control.html

Hope this helps I think they will work. Mark.
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: Crabbyboater on June 28, 2010, 12:55:30 am
Carlton and Boxmaker... you two are right on top of this.  That router speed control is just the ticket, and it's "plug 'N play".  Couldn't be easier and the cost is probably less than trying to build one.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: jimbo on June 28, 2010, 02:50:16 am
Vari speed is vital in my opnion and I am a newbie at this stuff, I have been on a lathe for the best part of 7 years and it has an 8 speed manual change wich is Ok, I use it all the time, on my saw I use the speed control all the time as well, it does not matter what I am cutting I adjust it to the speed that it is cutting the best, I don't need a foot control as the on off swich is at my finger tips
Jimbo
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: Rightarm on June 30, 2010, 12:46:52 pm
    I went to Menards and looked at a light dimmer switch. Not quiet what I wanted. I think I'm going to Harbor Freight and get the Router Speed Control. Thanks everybody for your help. Great Ideas. Dave 8)
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: Dawie on June 30, 2010, 03:25:47 pm
Hope you get it to work, I would not be without  my speedcontrol, use it allthe time depending on thickness and difficulty. Was one of the requirements for my saw when I started looking for one.
Good luck let us know how it went.
David
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: BilltheDiver on June 30, 2010, 03:54:25 pm
I tried a router speed control on a drill press (the variable speed circuit board has crashed)  I could control the speed, however when the speed decreased, so did the power.  I'm not sure how big a factor this might play with a scroll saw.
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: tas2181 on June 30, 2010, 06:56:25 pm
Be careful putting a variable control on your saw.
Generally, if the saw motor uses brushes, you can use a control. if it does not have brushes, a rheostat type speed control could ruin the motor.
Title: Re: Fast or Slow Cut
Post by: Rightarm on July 01, 2010, 06:34:51 pm
    Thanks for the info Tom. I'll have to check the specs to see if it has brushes or no. Dave