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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: Toneman on July 22, 2013, 05:34:07 pm
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I have been having problems using a #60 blade on my 10" mitre saw when cutting 1/4 or less material. The wood tends to have rough edges, and wanting to splinter out. What blade is best? I don't want to change blades every time I change thickness, so what would be the best overall blade on 1/8 to 3/4" wood?
Tony,aka,Toneman
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Try to find a blade with as many teeth as possible. Or maybe marked as a "plywood" or "finish" blade.
I don't use my miter saw for anything but rough cutting but, on my table saw I have as much as 100 tooth blade for thinner wood and nice smooth cuts. I have also heard of as much as 200 tooth blades but, I've never seen one.
Most miter saws use "miter saw blades" but, I think that if the arbor is 5/8" a standard 10" table saw blade would work also.
Rog
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Might try a 80 tooth or even that 100 thooth, the more teeth you have the smoother the cut but at the same time the slower you have to cut. Might also try cutting real slow with the miter on thinner stuff see if that helps, if not gonna have to change blades to keep a clean cut. I have a 60 tooth on my table saw and it cuts 1/4 boards pretty good no splinter but I also cut slow.
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How old is the 60 tooth blade? You should be able to get a clean cut with it. If all else fails, lay down a line of painters tape then mark your line. Clean cuts every time.
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Toneman, blades for a table saw and blades for a miter saw aren't generally interchangeable. Did you perhaps install a table saw blade on your miter saw?
From what I can gather, the hook angle is different. Rockler http://www.rockler.com/articles/saw-blades-101.cfm (http://www.rockler.com/articles/saw-blades-101.cfm) mentions that the miter saw needs a lower, or negative, hook angle.
Good luck,
Jim
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Another thing that you could do is put a piece of 1/4" plywood under the good wood thus creating a zero clearance insert to combat the tear out.
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WOW! Being a rookie working with wood, I realize there is a lot to learn about saws! LOL!! I just replaced the 60 tooth blade on my mitre saw with a new one, but, did not realize blades were not the same. Now, I will go back to the hardware store and ask for a mitre saw blade for a compound sliding saw used for thin material. But until I do, will try the blue tape and the plywood under my work piece. I appreciate all ya'lls advice and suggestions! My table saw has a 60 tooth blade and I notice it cuts better than the mitre, but, honestly, I am not quite that comfortable with the table saw yet, especially when needing narrow cuts. I did read the article on Rockler's site about blades and now I feel more confident about my next blade purchase.
Tony,aka,Toneman
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Toneman, what did you replace the 60 tooth blade with on your mitre saw? :)
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I agree with Julie, a sharp blade and painters tape should solve you tear out issues. The 60 tooth blade should work, but it might be worth investing in the 80 tooth if you are going to be doing a lot of thin wood cutting.
Bob
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Bob, I replaced the mitre saw blade with another 60 tooth blade, but, honestly I don't remember the brand or description on the blade. When I purchased the mitre saw and table saw, the salesman offered a spare 60 tooth blade @50% discount, so I am just now replacing the blade on the mitre saw with the spare. I will go to my shop this evening and look at the information on the blade.
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The new blade is a 60 tooth smooth/cross cut thin kerf, and a picture of a mitre, table, and arm saw is on the blade. So, I guess it is a blade for all these saws. According to Rockler, I should use a blade made only for mitre saws. The saw is a craftsman 10" 15 amp 6000 rpm and my table saw has same specs. I guess my problem could be a combination of blade and saw, huh? Oh well, at least I am still having fun and I can live with the problem if a better blade doesn't work better for me. Thanks all!
Tony,aka,Toneman
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Being its a 60 tooth thin kerf it should cut good with out tear out, have you tried on a scrap piece cutting slowly let the blade work through the wood see if that helps?
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I looked at my tablesaw blade today It is a CMT Orange and it is marked Table Saw/Miter Saw Blade. Don't have the other specs, I didn't take the blade off, but plan to tomorrow to see check. I was surprised to see the dual designation. I want to see the hook angle for openers.
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That is interesting Billy. Let us know what you discover about the hook angle of the blade. Since I am not using the mitre saw for cutting joints, but for sizing small pieces, maybe a combo blade is sufficient.
Tony,aka,Toneman
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Will do Tony. Right now I am having my 2nd cup Soon I will actually be able to speak in full sentences
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Here is a picture of the blade. it does say Miter/Table Lower left of the blade. The hook angle in not mentioned. The blade cuts very good sharp cuts in both crosscut and rip. Making tahe trk to the closest Woodcraft tomorrow.Picking up a Freud blade ffor a friend and a one for myself. As my friend stated They just have too much stuff I think I need/want!!!! I also looked at the other blades ( all 10") I have and ther are pretty much the same story. 2 Dewalts contractor blades and a Porter Cable ( came with my old saw0. They all show/saw that are good for miter/sliding miter or table. The blade in the picture is going on my miter saw and new blades will be for the table saw. Hope this helps.
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Thats still looks pretty aggressive, I have a 60 tooth on my table saw and its just a cheap blade, and its not a combination like that one, it has teeth all the way around. Should look up types of saw blades, there are think 4 different type of teeth on a blade, they are angled and raked different, it could be that blade to me the spaces around the blade could be what is tearing it out.
This is what my 60 tooth table saw blade is I got a 3 pack 24t, ?t and a 60t, this is for a 7 1/4 saw but I got a 10 inch version of it, http://www.lowes.com/pd_203875-353-75760B10_0__?productId=1207377&Ntt=60+tooth+saw+blade
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Here is some info from rockler on saw blades, might have some good info for you.
http://www.rockler.com/articles/saw-blades-101.cfm