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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: EIEIO on June 29, 2013, 12:41:22 am

Title: BB Ply
Post by: EIEIO on June 29, 2013, 12:41:22 am
I was in Menard's this week in the plywood aisle. Up on a top rack they had a sign for 1/4" Baltic Birch Plywood, with a description like it was the real thing. It was a 4'x8' sheet selling for $19.

Does anyone know if this is really BB Ply or if they just used the name? I understood all BB Ply was in 5'x5' sheets, but maybe Manards is big enough to get it made full sized.
Title: Re: BB Ply
Post by: Billy in Va on June 29, 2013, 06:24:57 am
Sometime in the past 6 months I read in one of the trade magazines that there were some manufactures starting to make BB ply is 4 X 8 sheets.  Look at the layers in BB and then some other ply ( Oak from HD or Lowes) and you will readily see the difference. Then you can compare it to what is labeled BB.
Title: Re: BB Ply
Post by: Keefie on June 29, 2013, 09:59:35 am
We can only get Birch ply here 8' x 4' sheets, it's not bad quality (no voids) but it's not true BB ply, I just bought 2 sheets of 4mm and it cost me ?67.00 , I wish we could get it for $19. It just shows how much we get ripped off here in the U.K.

Keefie.
Title: Re: BB Ply
Post by: EIEIO on June 29, 2013, 10:46:45 am
We can only get Birch ply here 8' x 4' sheets, it's not bad quality (no voids) but it's not true BB ply, I just bought 2 sheets of 4mm and it cost me ?67.00 , I wish we could get it for $19. It just shows how much we get ripped off here in the U.K.

Keefie.
Yes your costs seems to be much higher in a lot of things over there - that's a shame. Today in Ohio I pay $0.10/kWh (about ?0.066/kWh) for electrical energy, and $3.37/gal (?0.95/liter) for regular gasoline. How does your cost compare?
Title: Re: BB Ply
Post by: Keefie on June 29, 2013, 01:44:45 pm
Our electric varies depending on which supplier and what area you are in, ours is 14.12pence per kWh, plus they hit you with a 16.45 pence per day standing charge.  Our petrol (gas I think you call it )  is now £1.32 per litre out of which 68% is government Tax.
So yep, the government here is scr***ng us every way it can.

Keefie.
Title: Re: BB Ply
Post by: mrsn on June 29, 2013, 02:41:47 pm
It is close to the real thing. I have used it many times. The quality isn't quite as good as what I get from the lumber yard in a 5'x5' but is close enough most of the time.
It is really nice in the thicker thicknesses. 1/2" and 3/4" are awesome, the 1/4" is the stuff that isn't quite as good.
Title: Re: BB Ply
Post by: crupiea on June 29, 2013, 08:35:26 pm
5 x 5's around here.

They come in a big crate with russian writing on it. pretty neat.
Title: Re: BB Ply
Post by: cdrover(Clyde) on July 02, 2013, 08:11:23 pm
I have not been able to locate a local supplier for BB in my area. >:( >:(
Title: Re: BB Ply
Post by: wombatie on July 03, 2013, 02:18:41 am
I got some BB the other week, 3mm and there is just enough to cut maybe 4 portraits letter size and that cost me $25> Plus our petrol is selling for between $1.45 to $1.55 at the moment.

Marg
Title: Re: BB Ply
Post by: EIEIO on July 03, 2013, 02:56:13 pm
I got some BB the other week, 3mm and there is just enough to cut maybe 4 portraits letter size and that cost me $25> Plus our petrol is selling for between $1.45 to $1.55 at the moment.

Marg
Marg - is that $1.45 per liter or per gallon?
Title: Re: BB Ply
Post by: Merlin on July 03, 2013, 06:00:57 pm
Never seen BB over here in NZ.

Marg our petrol at the moment is 2.05 per liter (0-82 USD) approx:
The government over here screw as all the time apparently the petrol is going up again very soon again they are blaming the high dollar... What crap...

***Merlin***
Title: Re: BB Ply
Post by: wombatie on July 04, 2013, 05:42:42 am
That's a litre EIEIO.

Marg
Title: Re: BB Ply
Post by: EIEIO on July 04, 2013, 09:55:08 am
This is a tangent from BB Ply, but it looks like:

In the US we have Federal and State gasoline tax. In Ohio they total 0.464 USD/gal =  0.122 USD/Liter. If we figure the base fuel cost is the same around the world at 0.88-0.12 = 0.76 USD/L, then the penalty for each location looks like:
   per Liter   USD/Liter   Local Tax   % Tax
USA    0.88             $0.88   $0.12   13.6%
AU    1.50             $1.37   $0.61   44.5%
NZ    2.05             $1.60   $0.84   52.5%
GB    1.32             $2.01   $1.25   62.2% Keith said 68%, so there is some error in my analysis.
 
Far from exact, but maybe representative of the level of gov't intrusion into our finances. I wonder if this really goes deeper than just gasoline (petrol). Keith said everything in GB is higher - is that the effect of import tariffs, or is it just a gov't hand in your pocket?
Title: Re: BB Ply
Post by: Keefie on July 04, 2013, 02:28:25 pm
I think it's more of "the government hand in our pockets" (and anywhere else we can find to hide our money lol)