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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: Shogun on June 13, 2013, 12:32:58 pm

Title: Foot Switch
Post by: Shogun on June 13, 2013, 12:32:58 pm
I just had to come on and tell you all....I finally broke down and ordered a foot switch from SEYCO for my Delta POS and it was here last night when I got home from work. I love it!! I was in the shop till 5 am. LOL.
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: IBMer on June 13, 2013, 04:01:11 pm
Best thing since Sliced Toast!   Once you get used to it, you can't go back.   Mine has saved me from injury more than once when small projects get away from me.....   

I love mine so much that I put a foot shaped pedal cover on it...   No, not really  :o   
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: Russ C on June 13, 2013, 04:39:36 pm
I have been scroillin since the early 80's, when I found and put a foot switch on my scroll saw it took me to a whole new level. Had once everysence.  :)
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: tvman44 on June 13, 2013, 06:30:55 pm
Would not be without a foot switch. :)
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: countryscroller on June 13, 2013, 06:56:59 pm
I love mine as well. Is your guys' footswitch like mine in the video where you press down and it goes, let off it stops or the more you press down, the faster the saw runs?
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: dirtrider73068 on June 13, 2013, 07:19:08 pm
I love mine, ever since I put in on, wouldn't go without it. I got mine at HF, foot down its on foot down again its off, wish is was foot down its on let foot up its off.
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: Dakota Saw Dust on June 13, 2013, 07:34:41 pm
Bought mine mainly to save the rocker switch - which I understand goes out. I do like stopping as I make a right angle turn - it's improved my corners. However, I find the pushing [extending] of my toes to be hard on my leg muscle. Has anyone found a good mounting or placement position to ease the stress?  Brian
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: tvman44 on June 13, 2013, 07:36:29 pm
Mine is what they call a "dead man switch", take your foot off the pedal and the saw stops. :)
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: dirtrider73068 on June 13, 2013, 07:40:31 pm
Mine is what they call a "dead man switch", take your foot off the pedal and the saw stops. :)

What I would like to have, but the one I have works good, till it quits and needs replaced.
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: cdrover(Clyde) on June 13, 2013, 07:55:03 pm
My EX21 is so good I have 2 foot switches. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: IBMer on June 13, 2013, 08:12:52 pm
@ Dustin, mine is just a dead man switch.   It's like an On and Off switch only, the Speed is still controlled by the dial on the saw.     Yours must have a variable resistor / Potentiometer in it to be able to vary the speed of the saw.    Just curious, was it made for a scroll saw or some other tool?

   
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: countryscroller on June 13, 2013, 10:01:37 pm
@ Dustin, mine is just a dead man switch.   It's like an On and Off switch only, the Speed is still controlled by the dial on the saw.     Yours must have a variable resistor / Potentiometer in it to be able to vary the speed of the saw.    Just curious, was it made for a scroll saw or some other tool?

  
Well I guess the way I worded it made it sound fancy. It is the same where you press down and it goes, let off and it stops.  @ dirtrider73068 I got mine at HF also. They had two kinds when I got mine. I guess you got the other kind than I got. I was just curious if they even made a kind to where your saw is on full speed, but the foot switch controlled the momentum of the speed by the more you press down the faster it goes. Kind of like a foot pedal on a car. That would be nice to have.
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: IBMer on June 14, 2013, 12:46:25 am
Dustin,   I misunderstood.   I suspect that sending variable amounts of current to the saw by the way of a pedal could damage the motor. 
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: Scroll Down on June 14, 2013, 03:46:18 am
Bought mine mainly to save the rocker switch - which I understand goes out. I do like stopping as I make a right angle turn - it's improved my corners. However, I find the pushing [extending] of my toes to be hard on my leg muscle. Has anyone found a good mounting or placement position to ease the stress?  Brian

Try mounting it on a leg.of the stand and working it with your leg or knee.
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: newfie on June 14, 2013, 07:12:08 am
got one on my saw,its great
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: EIEIO on June 14, 2013, 08:04:05 am
Dustin,   I misunderstood.   I suspect that sending variable amounts of current to the saw by the way of a pedal could damage the motor. 
That is correct - you don't want a potentiometer (variable resistor) on the AC input to your saw. On my original Porter-Cable saw, a dead-man switch worked but killed the light same as the motor. I opened the circuit and found the location of the speed control pot and paralleled it with a resistive pot foot switch to control speed like a sewing machine - but  that's more trouble than it is worth. Holding constant speed is hard on your leg/foot so I tended to just hold it full on or full off. But full off on the pot does not stop the saw - just gets it to minimum speed.

Stick with the Dead-Man switch for on/off and use the saw's speed control and a light that keeps power even when you remove your foot from the switch.
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: IBMer on June 14, 2013, 12:30:32 pm
Ray,   I had the same thought.  A variable foot switch would work by reducing current to the motor.   Over time, it may damage the motor, like a freezer during frequent brown-outs.     Plus it would make your saw feel too much like a sewing machine  :P :o :P   
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: EIEIO on June 14, 2013, 06:09:21 pm
The motors in these saws don't directly use the AC input from the wall outlet. They are permanent magnet DC motors. They convert the 120V AC from the wall to DC then use varying DC voltage (by PWM on the P-C) to control speed. Putting a resistor on the AC input does not work.
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: GrayBeard on June 14, 2013, 07:12:37 pm
a word on 'deadman switches'....

I have the one from Harbor Freight and have used ti for about 2 yrs.
Then I bought one from Peachtree...MUCH better!!!

It has a much 'lower' profile and is much more comfortable!!!
Using the HF switch got to the point that in my configuration I was getting 'shin splints' after a few hours of cutting because I had to hold my foot at such a high angle and the one from Ptree is much flatter to the floor and therefore much more comfy!

Think about this when selecting your "DeadMan" switch....

~~~GB~~~

Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: IBMer on June 18, 2013, 09:38:39 pm
The motors in these saws don't directly use the AC input from the wall outlet. They are permanent magnet DC motors. They convert the 120V AC from the wall to DC then use varying DC voltage (by PWM on the P-C) to control speed.

Mine is powered by a Flux Capacitor, so I have no need for potentiometers.   It's the same one I use to generate the twenty thousand gigawannawatts needed to power my time machine.. 
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: EIEIO on June 18, 2013, 09:44:59 pm
OK then, no need for that kind of pot  ~~~8).
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: Billy in Va on June 18, 2013, 10:13:26 pm
I use the on Off foot switch. tried the dead man type and found it was tiring. I can move my leg in different positions for each cut. Its what works best for me
Title: Re: Foot Switch
Post by: IBMer on June 19, 2013, 10:14:22 pm
I use the on Off foot switch. tried the dead man type and found it was tiring. I can move my leg in different positions for each cut. Its what works best for me

Mine has saved my bacon..  Well my fingers a few times.    I've had very small pieces become stuck on my blade and go for a wild ride.   Being able to just lift my foot to stop the saw saved me from some serious pain.