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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: newfie on November 20, 2012, 03:44:45 pm

Title: glue
Post by: newfie on November 20, 2012, 03:44:45 pm
Whats a good glue to use when the wood is already stained or painted?
Title: Re: glue
Post by: scrollgirl on November 20, 2012, 03:50:32 pm
The glue will only be as strong as the paint or finish that is applied. I just had another customer ask me about this earlier today. I think it depends on what you are gluing. For instance, I would use a 2 part epoxy to glue a sawtooth hanger on the back of a plaque. (More than one if you think the plaque is a little heavy.) But if you are gluing say an 1/8" scrolled piece to a back board or another piece similar, where there won't be much stress on it, any good clear drying wood glue will probably do fine. I like Gorilla Wood Glue. I also like Tite-bond.

I think the most important thing is to be sure that the finish or paint is completely cured before applying glue. If you rush and glue it to fresh paint or finish, it could easily pull off of the piece (taking the paint or finish with it!) and come apart.

I am sure there will be some other great advice to follow, but that is my take on it.

Take care, Sheila
Title: Re: glue
Post by: IBMer on November 20, 2012, 04:27:38 pm
How large a part are you trying to glue?   I've been using Gorilla Glue Instant for wood.  It seems to work pretty well on small parts.  But as the previous poster said, you will be gluing the outer finish, not the actual lumber.   Is it something you can sand first to get bare wood to bare wood contact.   Wood glue works best on the lumber since it soaks into the wood fibers to make it's bond.

John
Title: Re: glue
Post by: newfie on November 20, 2012, 09:06:36 pm
the reason i'm asking is i make these boxes http://stevedgood.com/community/gallery/1749_18_07_11_7_20_49.jpeg (http://stevedgood.com/community/gallery/1749_18_07_11_7_20_49.jpeg) for people to put outdoors.i usually paint the name and stain the box with Thomson water seal. but i find it very hard to stain in side the letters so i was going to stain the boxes first and glue the name on after.this would work great for me as well making plaques. i know alot of you use different types of wood for the backer and another kind for the top piece then dip ti in BLO or some other finish.here where i'm at i don't have the choice of different woods and can't afford to send for them and have it shipped to me way to expensive for me.so i like to stain the backer dark and the top in BLO or something and glue them together.
Title: Re: glue
Post by: Keefie on November 21, 2012, 06:56:13 am
Whichever way you get it done is ok as long as it works for you, and looking at the picture of the box it's working very well - it's a fantastic looking box.
Title: Re: glue
Post by: Graywolf on November 21, 2012, 09:57:22 am
Newfi, that is a great box. I wonder if you could use a router to put the names on, then stain the name dark and stain and finish the project????

Title: Re: glue
Post by: edward on November 22, 2012, 10:53:05 am
 I been using tite bond11 for years, and never had a problem. For hangers on the back of a plack if the nail is to big I snip a little off, I use a small nail for a starter hole. Usually on a 1/4" backer I do this.  Edward
Title: Re: glue
Post by: king310 on November 22, 2012, 08:57:27 pm
I use gorilla glue and titebond. I recently repaired a antique clock from the 1800's. The top piece was arched and was cracked and was spred apart. I used the titebond and clamped it overnight and worked great. you cannot even notice the split.
Title: Re: glue
Post by: newfie on November 22, 2012, 11:47:48 pm
thanks guys and gals for your input it helps me alot.
Title: Re: glue
Post by: lazygit on November 24, 2012, 03:00:24 pm
I thought Thompson's Water Seal was silicone based. That would make it bad for having anywhere near where you wanted to glue.