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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: Danny on October 29, 2012, 06:00:25 pm
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I know....I Know.... A Lot of you wrap clear packing tape all around your cutting blanks. I did it ONE TIME and did not like having to peel that clear sticky tape off
the back side of the last blank. I can understand the tape some what Lubricates
the blade as it cuts. I know dgman to each his own. LOL Beat Yas....
Could I see a vote of who uses this method and who don't?
PROS N CONS are ALWAYS wELCOME.... Danny :+}
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I use it as well.. Another down-fall is that certain woods that make very fine sawdust can get under the tape and cover your pattern. For example, I was cutting African Paduka and the fine red sawdust actually ended up between my pattern and the box tape. Don't ask me how, but it found it's way in there, and the bright red dust made it impossible for me to follow the detailed template.
Just to clarify, I use Blue Painter's tape on the Wood, then spray the pattern with positionable tacky spray. I top that off with the Clear Packing tape. Mine comes off very easy, but I've had a few instances where very fine sawdust got under my clear packing tape, making it hard to see the pattern. I'm guessing that the saw blade lifts the tape just a fraction of an inch and allows fine sawdust to become trapped under the tape.
My GF usually volunteers to help remove my tape and patterns as I cut each piece. She has nails and can deal with the peeling part of the projects ;-)
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I use it, but only on top. Blue painters tape, pattern, clear packing tape. Peels right up with the blue tape.
Pete
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I use the clear packing tape. tape on the board, pattern on top of the tape. No problems with dust under the tape. If the piece has som really small pieces I will use blue tape. I put the pattern on top because the glare from the tape makes it very difficult for me to see the pattern lines. I do not like to use mineral spirits due to the lingering odor.
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i use it when stack cutting i put it between the painters tape and the pattern because i find i get to much glare from it when its on top of the pattern.
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I use it only on the top. For stack cutting I sometimes drive a couple of nail in the waste area of the wood you are cutting to keep the pieces together. I am stack cutting ornaments right now and I am having the same problem with the back side of the work only because I am too lazy to drive some nails in.
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Wood, blue or green tape, pattern and then packing tape ONLY on top and it works for me!
~~~GB~~~
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Wood, blue tape, patteren, tape...works great for me....might try to put tape between
patteren and blue tape for glare.....
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Hey Danny, There is a solution to every problem! I don't like using blue painters tape because it is time consuming to remove the tape from around small openings on the work piece. Instead, I apply the clear packing tape over the pattern. Notice I didn't say wrap? I apply over the pattern, then using a plastic putty knife I "burnish" the tape to make sure there are no air bubbles and to make sure the tape is tight to the pattern. That way sawdust does not get in between the pattern and tape. There are times when I want tape on the bottom for added lubrication. I will apply a blank sheet of paper to the bottom, then apply tape to that. After cutting I use a heat gun to loosen the pattern from the wood.
As I always say, What works for me, may not always work for you!
P.S. I don't have a problem with glare from the tape as I have florescent lights on either side of my saw.
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Want to get rid of the glare?
Go to Walgreen's and get a pair of cheap POLARIZED sunglasses!
During the warm weather i sit in the direct sunlight at the end of my garage and this works wonders for me!
~~~GB~~~
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I use it... Sheila
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Well it looks like most all feel that putting the clear packing tape at least over the top of the pattern is must. I have not had any problem with the pattern lifting when I use
Permanent Spray glue to the bottom of pattern and also top of Blue painters tape. And Yes we all have our own proven methods. I don't use Clear Packing tape. Well this be my Method. Thanks to All.... Danny :+}
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I only use it on wood that tends to burn. If I am cutting pine or poplar, I don't use any tape - just pattern to wood.
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I wrap the project in painter tape first, then apply the pattern on top with glue and then an other wrap with clear packing tape.
my problem is also sawdust on top if I didn't apply the clear tape nice and smooth.
but that's just paying More attention when applying the tape.
my biggest problem is the bottom.
there are alway little bumps where the hole is coming trough.
this is from some fuzzie/splinter from drilling.
tried slow and higher drill speed, but no results there.
and then while sawing the sawdust will make the little bumps just a little bigger because it's getting between wood and tape.
due to the bumps my work wants to sloop/bevel and when cutting on close parts it's getting wrong.....
ideas welcome ;)
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Wood - Blue Tape - Patteren - Packing Tape This Works for Me Also..
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Wood, Pattern. Works for me
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Marcellarius, I run my sander over the back to smooth out the bumps before cutting.
Larry
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I only use clear tape on compound cuttings. Just use spray adhesive on pattern direct to wood. remove with mineral spirits. Joe
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Gee after reading all of your comments I just Can Not Understand why there is a need to use the Packing tape. Oh yea....Cutting HARD WOOD. Lubricating thing.
Marcel you hit the nail on the head with your post concerning drilling all the lil holes and not being able to sand them flat. Reason PACKING TAPE.
Lets see....CONS.... Whats said above....packing tape reflecting light causing bad visibility of the line....fine saw dust getting between the pattern and PACKING TAPE.
Also causing bad visibility of the line.
....PROS.... Lubricating of the blade. Is there any more?
Oh well this be my 2cents worth. LOL Danny :+}
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Marcellarius, I run my sander over the back to smooth out the bumps before cutting.
Larry
I do that to, but because the paint-tape is at the bottom to it, can't be sand of complete.
I use the paint-tape also to do a stack cut and keep the layers together.
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This is how I also do it. :)
I use it, but only on top. Blue painters tape, pattern, clear packing tape. Peels right up with the blue tape.
Pete
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i use it when stack cutting i put it between the painters tape and the pattern because i find i get to much glare from it when its on top of the pattern.
i only use the self stick sheets for my pattern i find they stick great to the packing tape no lifting what so ever,no miss no fuss just peel and stick. as for the spray glue i use it once now and again for simple patterns like oval for plaques ETC when i only need the one of them.
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When I stack cut.... I cut each blank approx. 1/4" bigger than the pattern. I use
Aileens Tacky Glue and it only takes a SMALL DROP here n there. This is (to me) a Great craft glue. My 2 cents.
Clamp for 5 minutes and ready to cut. Nothing on bottom. Bear wood. Danny :+}
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Lets see, how does this go? Wood, Throwaway top layer, Pattern, Clear tape for lub. Yep, thats the way I go..Good Luck :):):)
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What do you use for the throw away layer?
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Most anything thin, Laum (door Skin), Laminated layers scrap, even poster boards. When I stack cut (which is what I do the most) I use toothpicks to stabilaze the boards. Advantage of that is the glue I use on the toothpicks also holds the boards together so there is no room for the sawdust to get between the layers. :)
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Wood (already sanded), pattern, packing tape.
Heat gun to remove everything once finished... comes off real easy.
Very slightly dampened rag with Varsol... comes out the same as when I first sanded before starting the project.
When I drill holes on the drill press I put a scrap piece of wood under the project and never have problems with splinters.
Works for me
Bobby
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What do you use for the throw away layer?
don't use one..... :o
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I go wood, pattern, clear packing tape. I try to not tape the back or bottom only the sides. It comes off pretty easy with the pattern and I clean everything up with min. spirits.
Barry
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So packing tape or no packing tape..???? ???
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I simply use temp. spray adhesive, followed by covering the top (and sides with a bit of the bottom if stack cutting non-intricate things) with clear packing tape. I use LED lighting and the glare is nothing to really worry about. It is important not to put the tape on the bottom as I learned the hard way. On time-intensive patterns you will start to get residue on the table by the blade, as well as little bits of tape, and these can cause your work to "snag". I just give the tape a bit of snugging and really don't have issues with dust getting under there. When done, 10-15 seconds under a heat gun at close range and the pattern is off.
I noticed others commenting on what they do with pilot hole tearout. Since it is generally in the waste area with a bit of room to spare, I just run a little hand planer over the back of the piece before cutting.
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I only ever use packing tape when I am stack cutting, I put it around the edge. Otherwise I just wood, blunt tape and then pattern.
Marg
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Marge,
What is blunt tape? Thats a new one to me.
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Billy, it must be an Aussie brand of tape with no sharp corners to cut your fingers on!!! (Sorry Marg ::) ::))
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Keefie,
When Marge reads that, you may gain an entirely new understanding of "Reach out the Touch Someone"
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To be blunt ( :D), I go with blue tape, spray glued pattern, clear packing tape, and enjoy.
Al
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I use a varity of tape. I use blue painters tape for hardwood since will peel of a little easier. Frog tape(green) for most projects. I then spray my pattern and taped board and let them set for a few minutes before joining them. I then put the packing tape on top and drill my holes. After that I then take emery paper an deglaze the packing tape. Works great! no glare 8) 8)
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Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah blunt. Well let me be perfectly blunt Billy, I haven' t got a clue what blunt tape is (lol) unless it's not got a sharp straight edge, hahahahah. Sorry guys that should be blue tape.
Marg
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they use blunt tape downunder since blue stands for something else ;D I thought terminology in the States was bad. ??? I wonder what they call Red?
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Good old red with dinner can't beat it. Hahah.
Marg
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Good old red with dinner can't beat it. Hahah.
Marg
I prefer Amber with dinner! ;D ::)
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So what you are saying that if you are working on a fish it should be white? :D